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27 Dec 20, 4 tweets, 4 min read
@Allison23829042 @Lionheart213072 @dat_Godwoman Stating "it's right" is not making an argument. I gave you a link to my article where I go into the "Dec 25 = a Mithraic feast" and show why actual scholars (as opposed to some illiterate dork on Wiki) reject that claim.
Plutarch's mention *may* mean Mithraism pre-dated ...
@Allison23829042 @Lionheart213072 @dat_Godwoman ... Christianity. Or it may mean some Cilician pirates worshiped the Persian form of the god. Modern Mithraic scholars agree that the Persian Mithra and the Roman Mithras actually had little in common and the Roman cult began in the first century. Not that it matters - pre-...
@Allison23829042 @Lionheart213072 @dat_Godwoman ... dating Christianity does not equal influencing it. Which is what you're supposed to be showing.
Halos were a common iconographic element in Mediterranean symbolism generally, so to claim Christianity "stole" them from Mithraism is ridiculous - both used the symbolism of ...
@Allison23829042 @Lionheart213072 @dat_Godwoman ... their surrounding culture. And your final statement has backpedalled all the way from hard assertions to a rather weak maybe.
What happened to "dying and rising on the third day" etc? That claim seems to have vanished. So far, NO evidence or scholarship. None. "Research"?

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Did the Medieval Church regard eating breakfast as "gluttony"? No. A thread.

Just when you think you've seen all the strange myths about the Middle Ages, a new one appears. The Twitter account of the BBC panel show QI posted the following image yesterday, declaring "In the ...
... Middle Ages, eating breakfast was believed to be an affront to God". This attracted a predictable response, with various comments about how stupid medieval people were, how weird this was and how this was evidence of the stupidity of religion etc. It also attracted some ...
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This is utter garbage.
This kid has been mangling the history around the Galileo Affair for a couple of years now, and he really needs to stop.
(i)The Church actually *did* declare it was open to the idea that the earth went around the sun. They had been so when they had sponsored and actively ...
... encouraged Coperncius a century earlier, with the Pope even favourably receiving a lecture on his theories before his court in the Vatican Gardens in 1533. The problem was that the Copernican Model was full of scientific holes, and so was rejected by almost all ...
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30 Jan
@Zodian18 @CosmicSkeptic No. This kid has been mangling the history around the Galileo Affair for a couple of years now, and he really needs to stop.
(i) The Church actually *did* declare it was open to the idea that the earth went around the sun. They had been so when they had sponsored and ...
@Zodian18 @CosmicSkeptic ... actively encouraged Coperncius a century earlier, with the Pope even favourably receiving a lecture on his theories before his court in the Vatican Gardens in 1533. The problem was that the Copernican Model was full of scientific holes, and so was rejected by almost all ...
@Zodian18 @CosmicSkeptic ... scientists. But in 1615 Cardinal Bellarmine, who a year later made the ruling against Galileo’s theological interpretations based on Copernicanism, made it perfectly clear in his open letter to Foscarini that *IF* those scientific objections were overcome and a ...
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I like the way this meme about “the Middle Ages” (illustrated, of course, by a *seventeenth century* painting) has done nothing but allow people to demonstrate that ... they know absolutely nothing about the actual Middle Ages. Image
“I’d be burned as a witch!”

Doubtful, given the Witch Craze came a few centuries later.
“I’d invent the steam engine!”

Really? So you’ve built a lot of working steam engines from scratch, have you? And you have, off the top of your head, a detailed working knowledge of their technical specifications sufficient to build one? No, didn’t think so.
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26 Jan 20
Thankfully, the depiction of Hypatia of Alexandria on *The Good Place* didn't perpetuate any of the usual pseudo historical nonsense about her, even if it was slightly odd. I really cannot see how a Kantian like Chidi would have found the rather mystical neo-Platonism of the ...
... school of Plotinus attractive, though the show did depict her as a childhood hero of his, so maybe he was more into that sort of thing as a kid. Or maybe the writers just didn't do much homework on what neo-Platonists believed. Anyway, if the show didn't boost the myths ...
... about Hypatia, that's more than can be said for some of the commentary about it. Take this piece from *Esquire* which claims it "explains" who she was.
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23 Jan 20
@andy_176382 @RayLongstreet @Charmingman93 @DHaporth @thebritishertwi Both those statements are wrong. He and they both knew that he had not "disproved" anything and the scientific consensus was that he was wrong. That's partly because he *was* wrong about pretty everything, except the idea the sun was at the centre of the system. And that was ...
@andy_176382 @RayLongstreet @Charmingman93 @DHaporth @thebritishertwi ... still a flawed and disputed idea in 1632 and would remain so for decades after Galileo's death. The centrepiece of Galileo's argument was his argument from the tides, which was not only completely wrong but could be shown to be so definitively at the time. So he did not ...
@andy_176382 @RayLongstreet @Charmingman93 @DHaporth @thebritishertwi ... "disprove" anything. The consensus of science was solidly against him and everyone involved knew that, including Galileo.
He was also not "threatened with torture". He was in no danger of being tortured for multiple reasons: (i) he cooperated with the inquiry at all ...
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