Really good story telling by @whippletom and some honestly funny quotes by experts in this @thetimes article about the search for the origins of covid. @shingheizhan and I are very flattered to have been interviewed for this story. thetimes.co.uk/article/how-di…
I like the article & think it gives lab origins fair evaluation:
“Publicly, many extremely senior scientists have opposed this idea. “We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories.. wrote one group in the Lancet..
Privately, some told The Times it was not so absurd.”
Although would have been good to also highlight the history of that Lancet letter if there was space in the article for it- in terms of Daszak writing it, who agreed to co-sign vs who didn’t agree to, and its connection to the NASEM letter emails mentioned in @thetimes article.
I also enjoyed @BallouxFrancois quote “There is nothing notable to distinguish this from the other natural coronaviruses.. But, equally, “I cannot dismiss it. I cannot disprove it is the work of some nefarious boffin.”

Immediately gave me mental image of a mischievous scientist.
But I think that, if sars2 did come from a lab, it wouldn’t necessarily have to be the work of a nefarious boffin. Could’ve arisen from the typical work of culturing natural viruses, moving genes between closely related genomes or inserting a tiny new feature to see what happens.
Current approaches of detecting engineering can’t discern these types of genetic manipulation that either rely on processes simulating nature (eg selection or evolution experiments) or seamlessly introduce parts from close relatives. (And it’s not a machine learning problem.)

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31 Dec 20
There is a phenomenal amount of content to unpack in this astounding end-of-2020 @APNews article on the origins of SARS-CoV-2/covid. I spent the day thinking about how to go about a thread about their many findings. apnews.com/article/united…
The single line that stuck with me the most:

“It’s pointless to blame anyone for this disease” - Wuhan Huanan seafood market vendor Jiang

"Jiang avoided telling people he worked at Huanan because of the stigma. He criticized the political tussle between China and the U.S."
I agree on this point. I've spent many months not really wanting to be associated with my own twitter account. Not because there's something unscientific about the things I've tweeted, but because of the stigma associated with going against the consensus on covid origins.
Read 22 tweets
30 Dec 20
I understand why reputable polls are using "covid was created in a lab" as a conspiracy theory/misinformation test, but at the same time it feels like a throwback to the infamous 2015 poll showing that over 80% of Americans support “mandatory labels on foods containing DNA"...
These polls can set unintentional traps for people who do not have strong scientific literacy (which does not equate to stupidity). 2015, I was 🤣 hearing that 80% of Americans wanted labels on foods containing DNA, but was rightly chastised by a friend..
washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-co…
These polls should keep average scientific literacy in mind and attach explanations or exclude options that are too challenging or nuanced to clearly explain to participants in a brief survey.

In this poll, why not rephrase as "covid is an intentionally released bioweapon"?
Read 14 tweets
30 Dec 20
“Scientists have little insight into where and how the virus emerged, in part because Beijing has delayed an independent investigation into the animal origins of the outbreak.”

“There’s no serious discussion on what actually went wrong.” nytimes.com/2020/12/30/wor…
I feel like questions about bad science or bad scientific reporting often come down to the simple question of how much was due to honest error vs misconduct.

For me, these were the most interesting points in the @nytimes article on the early events of covid emergence in Wuhan.
Dec 30 "(Wuhan) authorities ordered hospitals to report.. cases. By policy, the hospitals should have also reported them directly to the national C.D.C... They didn’t."

Dr. Gao (China CDC) "when asked about how he learned about the Wuhan cases.. Everyone saw it on the internet.”
Read 10 tweets
28 Dec 20
Nothing strange happened in Wuhan but if you go around asking questions, you get tortured and thrown in prison for 4 years.
Nothing to see at these mines in Yunnan where SARS2-like viruses were collected, but if you try to visit, broken down lorries will appear on the road, blocking you until you leave for the airport.
Nothing unnatural about the spike S1/S2 furin cleavage site in SARS2 but it wasn’t even mentioned in the WIV’s first covid paper in @nature despite their very careful comparison of SARS2 to SARS1.
Read 7 tweets
24 Dec 20
“Rather than harsh and largely ineffective travel bans, we should instead focus on encouraging compliance with proven interventions such as masking, distancing.. empowers people with the information to make good decisions to protect themselves and their families.”
I know masks are very contentious in the US. I’d like to ask people to please consider:

Imagine being in the same room as a covid case, would you not want a mask? Would you not want the covid+ person to be wearing a mask while sharing your office or performing a service for you?
Imagine getting a phone call (if you’re that lucky and someone is actually testing and contact tracing), and being told your office mate, who shares your office for hours a day, just tested positive for covid. Would you have wanted this person or yourself to have worn a mask?
Read 4 tweets
22 Dec 20
A single event "sent viruses to at least 29 other states and 9 countries.. resulting in 100ks of infections.. One of the surprising things is the extent.. viruses can spread so quickly, particularly when younger, healthier people are involved who don’t realize they are infected."
".. the ultimate impact to society can paradoxically be greater when chains of transmission involve younger, healthier, and more mobile populations. That has important implications for the precautions people need to take, even after vaccination."
"people who have been vaccinated could still be infected, carrying and transmitting the virus, without feeling sick. Until we know more, it is critical that those who have been vaccinated still wear masks, practice physical distancing, and take other precautions to avoid spread."
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