We need to get something straight.

This is propaganda. It's also popular. It misrepresents Popper (reasonable) and sneakily forwards Marcuse (radical totalitarian), specifically his Repressive Tolerance.
Popper has a much more careful argument where he outlines the Paradox of Tolerance. In that more careful argument, he points out that one should not seek to suppress intolerant ideologies until they can't be reasoned with. (Uh oh, Wokies!)
The context of the graphic, though it's not made specific, can pretty easily be determined to be what Herbert Marcuse is talking about in "Repressive Tolerance" (1965) as "liberating tolerance."
Link: marcuse.org/herbert/public…
You'll notice that while Popper argues that when intolerant movements become unresponsive to argument is time to stop tolerating them (Uh Oh, Wokies!!), Marcuse says we should not tolerate the right and should tolerate the left, lest we end up with Nazis and fascists. Insane.
Marcuse wasn't coming from a place of sanity. He was coming from a place of liberationism (the paramoral paradigm in Critical Theory). Under that view (see also, Dialectic of Enlightenment), all liberal orders are about to flip to fascism any moment and must be repressed.
Whereas Popper made the argument that it is when an ideology is (1) intolerant and (2) completely unreachable by rational argument (UH OH, WOKIES!!!), Marcuse insisted the left is always fixing that problem and the right and liberals are always going fascist right away.
By the way, here's the opening paragraph of Dialectic of Enlightenment, by Horkheimer and Adorno (1944/47), which is considered the most systematic exposition of Critical Theory. It's thesis is that Enlightenment rationalism (and religion) always end in fascism. Nonsense, ofc.
Back to Marcuse, who you can now see as a perversion of Popper (who would warn us severely against the Woke, not write FOR them), I keep telling you to read the essay because it's what you're living through now. LOOK FAMILIAR?!
Technically, Marcuse isn't wholly wrong. He points out that violence emanating from "ruling classes" is unjustifiable and must be resisted (UH OH, WOKIES! TECHNOCRATS! DEMS! LINCOLN PROJECT!) and must be resisted, but he simplistically breaks this into left and right.
So, Marcuse is a great example of becoming the monster you try to slay because that point about ruling class power (OH NO WOKIES!) really gets hit hard again with calls for justified violence against it. Of course, that's what they think they're doing to the liberal order.
Notice in the above passage that Marcuse simplistically protects "left" from "right" and not the reverse. Marcuse, in fighting totalitarianism, lost sight of his own and became a blatant totalitarian, as we'll continue to see. Popper would not support what's happening now.
Marcuse shows his hand pretty clearly here, where he invokes Robespierre (oof!) to defend revolutionary violence and condemn "reactionary violence," while also saying that while violence is always wrong, ethics don't matter in the making of history.
Side bar! Again! When Marcuse talks about "making history," that may have the usual meaning, but it also must be remembered that Marcuse is a Hegelian neo-Marxist and therefore would believe that history has to be made (toward his idea of liberation) by revolutionary action.
What we're seeing in Marcuse here, then, is a clear indication that he believes that the kind of violence that serves his view of how the world should go is justified to repress "the right" while all other forms are absolutely evil and must be preemptively suppressed.
So we rewind to Popper. Does it look like Popper would agree with Marcuse or warn us about him? Marcuse's ethical program (liberationism) is what the Woke use, so would Popper agree with the Woke or warn us about them?

The graphic is propaganda. It's a distortion.

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12 Jan
They've become so accustomed to just manufacturing whatever public sentiment that they want that they don't realize that there are limits to the magic of alchemy, and with hundreds of millions of people around the world, the spell is already broken.
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This is no small point here, by the way. They literally believe they can manufacture, by engineering the discourses, whatever public sentiment and mood they want. They think they can induce national calm by censoring people and tailoring what people hear and say.
It's absolutely crucial to understanding what's happening now to understand the idea of "discourse engineering," where they believe they can do social engineering by changing what people talk about and, quite clearly, achieve virtually any end with it.
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Maybe it's nothing, but Wikipedia has (temporarily?) scrubbed its article on "Repressive Tolerance" (which is a chapter in the book below). This seems to be after I talked about it enough that Steve Bannon and @JackPosobiec mentioned it on The War Room. Image
Here's the archived entry. This really doesn't make much sense, especially since it doesn't say much of interest, and the full document is available online for free.
Here's the full text of Repressive Tolerance in all its intolerant glory.
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Another reminder that what we are witnessing and have been witnessing over the last 5 years is an attempted creation of a new national mythology saying America was founded in slavery in 1619, not freedom in 1776, and that culminates in defeating "Nazi white supremacists" in 2021.
It is in every free person in the world's best interests to fight like hell against this narrative and to keep setting the record straight while calling out this horrific distortion for what it is. New story, new way of life, and you see who its cruel masters will be.
It is up to us right now to weigh every event in light of both of these stories and show how the new American metanarrative is a dangerous distortion and that we should not go that way. They torn down the old metanarrative and are replacing it with their horrific new one.
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They're, and they're THERAPISTS, willing mental illness into existence (especially for populations they deem extra vulnerable) and then complaining about its existence and blaming everyone else for it.

Munchausen's by proxy FROM THE THERAPISTS who should be treating it.
I got so mad about this I had to record a short podcast about it. I've been trying to tell people and get people to write about the catastrophe that is Woke therapy, Inc., for a long time now, and this pushed me over a breaking point. It's so damned abusive. So abusive.
If someone is in therapy, they're there because they are vulnerable and to be vulnerable in the rather brave course of seeking help, health, and improvement. To put a literally abusive ideology into the program of their care makes me so mad I want to scream.
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One problem I think is transparently clear having been on both sides of it is that the way Trump speaks is itself a problem. It's almost like you have to relax to listen to him, or you will hear things as being far worse than they really are.
People who "support" him, or who really support him, see this and think he's funny, though they wish he were a bit better spoken (usually) and more clear. Some few might, in the present insanity, need a LOT of calming down, which he never provides, but most don't. Most get it.
On the other hand, since all of the left thinks he's literally a tyrant or a Nazi and have done since they just made it up out of thin air in 2015, they hear that every time and have worked themselves up into a self-congratulatory tizzy for believing it instead of the opposite.
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