Thread by @CockerJon

One of the most important themes in #ItsASin was the fact they were breaking the law.

Age of consent was 21. Gay Threesomes were illegal. Gay sex outside the house was illegal. Having gay sex in a house where someone else was living was illegal.

https://twitter.com/owenjones84/status/1353834288542834688

The fight for gay rights was therefore about achieving equity with straight folk.

We debated anyone, any time , anywhere. We needed to persuade, and for that we needed conversation

Trans rights are enshrined in the Equality Act 2010. So what rights don’t trans people have?

AIDS destroyed an entire generation of gay men.

The only people who cared for us were lesbians, and left wing women.

The same women labelled “bigots” and “transphobes” today.

Gay men like Owen, who wasn’t even born then, harass and name call these women on a daily basis.

When they ask for conversation regarding the impact of gender ideology on their single sex spaces, they are screamed at.

“Be kind” is the command from the angry men.

This isn’t just a twitter spat. This is having a real world impact on women we need to have a conversation about

Biden”s first day produced an order that teenagers could use the changing room of their choice

Single sex spaces matter. 99% of rapes in the UK aren’t prosecuted

Women are called bigots for wanting to talk about their safety.

They are called “TERFS”.

They receive thousands of death and rape threats. Some examples in the link

Those photos remind me of the gay bashers of the 1980s

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Owen does nothing to cool this debate. He is famous for the amount of women he had blocked for daring to disagree with him.

While men like him are involved we won’t get anywhere. He is no trans ally, an ally would try to work towards consensus.

He just want women to shut up

As for complaining about safeguarding. 🙄

I’m a gay man and have no problem following safeguarding rules. Safeguarding is there to protect the vulnerable & protect me from false accusations. It’s not an attack on me personally.

So why does Owen get so upset about it?

I lost 12 sexual partners.

I will carry survivors guilt with me forever.

I will not let anyone claim what we went through then, and the level of homophobia in society we received, is in any way the same as things today.

Trans people deserve respect, but so do women.

And right on cue.

For a man making a living writing words, he seems to have very little to say outside his personal echo chamber.

“No debate” indeed....

Adding the original quote tweet as a screenshot for the billions (now including me) that are blocked.

While many may have considered gays to be immoral, we’d had scientific proof of gay sexual attraction for decades. No one thought we were breaking biological reality.

As for the world according to Owen thinking we were “undesirable”

Well, I’ll just leave these here.