Thread by @ArsonAtDennys

Here are the emails by @slatestarcodex that show he is a racist eugenics supporter. Emails leaked by @TopherTBrennan who deleted their tweets just now. Reposting here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210217195335/https://twitter.com/TopherTBrennan/status/1362108632070905857

Screenshots of the original thread.

Transcript of emails availability here:


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https://twitter.com/boring_cactus/status/1362184381389963268?s=20

Other highlights from Scott Alexander Siskind (squid314 is his livejournal):

Excellent point by @perdricof

https://twitter.com/perdricof/status/1362184633232859138?s=20

https://twitter.com/adropboxspace/status/1362152874801684480

Definitely not a cult-leader asks suppressives* to be ... suppressed:

*only true scientology fans will get this, if you know you know

https://twitter.com/iridienne/status/1362173597406568449?s=20

What the fuck is wrong with these people
@CadeMetz Just so you know, this is the extremely normal reaction of the definitely not reactionary or racist rationalist subculture when Theophite reposted the emails. (after harassing the original poster off first)

@A_lethe_ia @NormieRotten @slatestarcodex @TopherTBrennan *the other person who replied to them

Holy fucking shit

https://twitter.com/giesch_sheesh/status/1362174591955730433?s=20

@grkraml @davidgerard

I'm not going to read this long review that argues for UK to ally with Hitler line by line but it's pretty bad.

Scott: "various scattered historical examples which they seem able to parse better than anybody else. see for example: "foseti.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/rev…

@iridienne @graue Okay just reposted it

https://twitter.com/ArsonAtDennys/status/1362277195545247744

Scott’s commentariat under no delusions about his actual beliefs prior to the leak of the emails

https://twitter.com/_Jason_Dean_/status/1360832071569199104

Siskind lying through his teeth denying his obvious alignment with Murray.
An interesting phenomenon in all this has been the out and proud neoreactionaries/eugenicists calling for Scott to “stop being a coward”. They seem to feel thrown under the bus.

https://twitter.com/_Jason_Dean_/status/1360833006840201219

If you go to the quote tweets of the first tweet in this thread, depressingly it is about 60% condemnation as you’d expect and 40% NRX chuds commenting “based” or some variant

As @jttiehen astutely noticed below

https://twitter.com/jttiehen/status/1361040370973298690

^In a thread worded cleverly to raise the hackles of those who are fans of both Scott and Murray. They find themself stuck between a rock and a hard place (admit scott is racist or be forced to criticize Murray through clenched teeth).

A lot of us were frustrated by Scott’s refusal to stop giving a platform to Nazis on his blog but it’s less of a puzzle given his explicitly stated desire to provide a recruitment pipeline for reactionaries t.co/73qTkfoLGJ

Eliezer Yudkowsky, definitely not wannabe cult-leader, condemns Topher as obviously evil for coming forward with these tweets. More surprising is the lack of significant disagreement in the thread. Needless to say, the contents of the emails are never mentioned by Yud or others.

@iridienne What's it missing? or where?

I don't think I've seen criticism of Scott for these emails from even a single follower of his on public channels. Dangerous mindset when criticism cannot be aired in the interest of protecting the community's image. PDF of facebook thread:
pdfhost.io/v/9Ww2WUi8k_20…

As Arthur points out, the rationalist community does not have a great history with handling abuse in their community with anything remotely resembling accountability. The worst examples being Kathy Forth, her suicide and its aftermath. cw: sexual assault

https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1362183449050714116?s=20

Perfect example of the DARVO by prominent members of the rationalist community over #slatestarcodex
@jimrandomh, employed by the rationalist site Lesswrong claimed that the association between rationalists and race-science (HBD) was a smear campaign

https://twitter.com/jimrandomh/status/1361384585443962880

Oh boy look what surfaced from 2014, Scott Siskind comment where he replied to JayMan's bullshit comment on Jennifer Raff's review of Troublesome Inheritance.
Dismissing a trained expert to believe a racist HBD blogger and telling him you love his blog.

So much for "doxxing"!!!

Fascinatingly, it seems that he used his real name to be ... more racist than he could under his more popular pseudonym.
Puts the lie to the entire "doxxing" controversy, making it clear that the true objection was to negative coverage.
See comment here:
web.archive.org/web/2020102622…

@jeremyyoder writes a blog post on speciation of the three-spined stickleback.

Scott (Alexander) Siskind appears to ask him what he thinks of Gregory Cochran, another famous race/IQ pseudoscience guy (long-time collaborator of white nationalist Harry Harpending per @splcenter )

The blog post is about a fish, Siskind is too much of a caricature for fiction.
molecularecologist.com/2014/08/05/how…

My apologies I meant to tag @JBYoder in the previous tweet. Do you recall this interaction by any chance Jeremy?

Moving on, another appalling entry on Scott's LJ. He is "not really interested in debating the moral good or evil of eugenics here"!

web.archive.org/web/2013122923…

@avi_eisen @slatestarcodex @JenniferRaff How did this hypothetical creature you've conjured know that Scott was a fan of Gregory Cochran and Jayman, do tell? (as you can see in the email)

Re: the comments by Scott under the name Scott Siskind, someone has pointed out that Scott claimed to have been misrepresented by angry racist profanity laden comments under his name.

While that may also be true, the two comments in question accord with his views...
... 1/2

@avi_eisen @slatestarcodex @JenniferRaff Also, do you have any thing on what he said at the time that would indicate *those* comments were what he repudiated?

... in a very precise way. In 2017, 3 years later Scott wrote a several thousand word essay on the IQ of Ashkenazi Jews based on a paper by the scientific racist Cochran who was mentioned earlier.
He has mentioned Jayman favorably over the years.

https://twitter.com/avi_eisen/status/1363363299870593024

In the discussion above, @avi_eisen points out that Scott had linked to Jayman and Cochran's blogs and a hypothetical detractor could have come across them there.

Various links to HBD by Scott were dug up by someone in a comment on Aaronson's blog here.
scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=5310#c…

... this seems to me to be a distinction without a difference.

Given the evidence from the email that Scott lies (and specifically on this topic) when it suits his public image I find it much easier to believe that he put up that disclaimer when somebody stumbled on it.