GMO's forecasts are based on an assumption stocks mean revert to an expected return in line with historical averages (6.5% real) within 7 years. But there is no law of the universe that says investors are entitled to 6.5% real and stocks will always generate that level of return.
GMO has now consistently undervalued the market for 20-30 years running. They have done this because they continue to make an unsound assumption the cost of capital is fixed through time, when in reality it evolves/changes, and has a tendency to decline over time.
I'm not saying certain markets are not expensive. They are. But a much better approach is to work out what return is implied by current valuations on an IRR/DDM basis, not what the return would be if asset prices declined so as to offer a much higher return in the future.
My assessment is that the US market is priced for about a 5-7 nominal return, which equates to perhaps 4.5% real. If I'm right on that, your expected return is 4.5% real, not a big negative number that assumes stocks reprice to 6.5% real, which may simply be wishful thinking.

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There is a popular notion hot fast-growing software companies that are losing money are doing so because they are "investing through the income statement", spending $ to acquire customers, & R&D on new product features. Investors believe losses reflect investment not competition.
In some cases, that's genuinely the case, but in many others it is not. The impact of competition on margins/returns can manifest in multiple ways. It doesn't just have to be price competition. It can be competition for features, or S&M competition to acquire and keep customers.
In the online space, anyone can acquire more users by being willing to spend more money on performance marketing (paying for clicks, installs, etc). The fastest growing companies will therefore be those willing to spend the most money w FB, GOOGL etc, paying to acquire users.
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"Stocks are overvalued". "Value investing is dead".

Grange resources - +169% over LTM and nearly 4x off its lows, just reported a A$200m FY20a profit. Has c$200m in net cash. Tangible book value up from $530m to $720m. Even after today's +25% its market cap is still only c$600m. Image
Their ASP was only US$137/MT in 2020 (albeit on a lower AUD of 69.55c). Spot 62pc is US$165/MT and typically pellets attract a sizeable product premium to 62pc Fe fines. Image
Net cash of near $200m is after investing A$50m in working capital (unnecessarily). Inventories & receivables up, payables down. At least $50-100m of hidden cash in excess working capital - particularly unusually low payables. And also significant investments in mine development. Image
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A month or so ago, I expressed concern about what would happen if someone died from vaccine (i.e. we might shut down vaccination). I seriously misread this. It seems everyone wants to move past covid badly enough that we are prepared to largely ignore it.

nypost.com/2021/01/15/23-…
Norway has prioritized vaccinating the elderly first (something I tweeted earlier was probably a bad idea). 23 deaths from 30,000 shots. That's a fatality rate of about 0.08%. The overall covid fatality rate is about 0.5%, but higher amongst the oldest demographics.
It still makes sense to vaccinate, although it might make more sense to target herd immunity & avoid vaccinating the most frail. People don't understand statistics though & demonstrated that throughout covid. When you have a very large n, a lot of people will die from anything.
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One of strongest arguments for crypto is libertarian-dream idea of a store of value beyond govt seizure. But you need an onramp/offramp to convert to fiat, like Coinbase. Coinbase needs a relationship w a bank to offer that capability, & banks insist on KYC/AML to bank exchanges.
If you want to evade KYC/AML etc, you have to trade on dodgy unbanked crypto exchanges without such onramps/offramps (i.e. you can only trade crypto for other crypto). But you can't convert your crypto to fiat. And if you can't convert it to fiat, you can't access it/spend it.
KYC performed by banked crypto exchanges will link all your personal identification details to the public key, so authorities know exactly who owns the coins. And if they know that, they can in fact seize the coins via court order. They can regulate & require exchanges to comply.
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Tether's putative "USD reserves" haven't been audited. Tether is under investigation by US authorities & has failed to comply with court-ordered information requests.

The rapid inflation in the tether supply has likely contributed to the recent run-up in crypto "asset" prices.
This is not a sideshow. The majority of Bitcoin at the moment is being bought with Tether, not USD. It is more than a little ironic that it is not inflation in the USD money supply that is driving BTC up, but inflation in the "Tether" money supply - another cryptocurrency! 😂
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Crypto bulls seem to think being a very long term "store of value" is an important attribute of a currency. It's not and never has been.

The most important attribute/function of a currency is its exchange value being stable & predictable enough to facilitate trade & commerce.
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In countries with hyperinflation, you'll often see people abandon the local currency for foreign currencies like the USD/Euro. Merchants start to refuse local currency. Govt fiat "monopoly" does not guarantee acceptance. Ppl only accept it when its exchange value is predictable.
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