Why does it seem impossible to engage in good faith debate online?
I think a phenomenon I call "disinterpretation" can help us understand why that's the case.
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A couple examples:
During the DNC last summer, I thought Julia Louis-Dreyfus's hosting one night, which tried to be both edgy and family friendly, was kind of awkward. So I tweeted, "Let's be honest, this is the low point of Julia Louis-Dreyfus's career.”
A Twitter user who commented often on my posts responded, “You sound a lot like Christopher Hitchens.” They were alluding, of course, to his notorious misogynistic Vanity Fair essay arguing that women aren’t funny.
I was startled. It wasn’t just a bizarre leap from what I had said, but it was in fact an inversion of what I was getting at: I find Louis-Dreyfus to be very funny, and it was clear that the strictures of a stuffy (online) political convention were stifling her.
And that's to say nothing of the fact that even if I _had_ been saying Louis-Dreyfus isn't generally funny, that of course wouldn't be a class-wide indictment of women comics. (I don’t generally comment on comics, so the criticism wasn’t a response to other things I’ve said.)
Another example told via screenshots from my newsletter.
TLDR: someone accused me of shifting goal posts in an exchange about Hillary Clinton while attributing false quotes to me & saying I didn't believe in things I've reported on extensively. zeeshanaleem.substack.com/p/twitter-bad-…
This style of discourse is endemic to Twitter. Commentators are constantly being characterized as believing things they don’t believe, and entire intellectual positions are stigmatized based on vague associations with ideas that they don’t have any substantive affiliation with.
Often it happens because positions don’t instantly appear to fit into classic left-right or liberal-left binaries. If I critique Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility workshops I’m told I oppose making the workplace diverse; if I say doxing civilians can be hyper-punitive I’m told ...
... that I’m a reactionary uninterested in the fight against mass incarceration, even though that's an issue I've written about for over half a decade.
I increasingly decline to rebut these kinds of points and say “I did not say that” or “please read what I wrote.”
What accounts for this mass illiteracy? How is someone reading something yet not truly reading it at the same time?
I believe it's illustrative of an intellectual climate in which nothing is untouched by polarization, and everything is seen as a battlefield.
Every post is seen as a proxy for some broader orientation which must be sorted into the bin of good/bad, socially aware/problematic, savvy/out of touch, my team/the enemy. The text itself is often largely irrelevant.
Remarkably, this filtration process is so intense that people want to sort out any given comment into one of these bins _before they’ve even fully interpreted them_.
If you’re not inclined to “read the room” — one of the most common exhortations among the braindead Twitterati — in a specific corner of the Internet and put forward instantly recognizable talking points, then your comments are flagged as at odds with what’s considered sensible.
There’s an almost algorithmic quality to the way that this scanning and sorting process works, which would explain how people come to conclusions that often don’t make much sense outside of the function of identifying irregularities in The Discourse.
Which brings me to the idea of disinterpretation, which is perhaps the premier analytic tool for flourishing on social media.
Disinterpreting something is incorrectly interpreting something with an adversarial, antisocial, and exploitative ethos.
Misinterpretation is when people incorrectly understand meaning. Disinterpretation is when they don’t have the intention of understanding it.
Needless to say, disinterpretation helps foster a climate that dampens intelligent debate and makes people reluctant to articulate themselves in ways that don’t signal conformity to recognizable factions.
Even straightforward descriptive accounts of the world are vulnerable to bad faith attacks. Like the time I was invited onto Tucker Carlson because they thought describing N. Korea's economy as growing was the equivalent of celebrating their government?
Anyway, this thread is getting too long -- you can read the rest, including my engagement with a great thread-essay by @Millicentsomer last year on how “bad faith is the condition of the modern internet" at my newsletter: zeeshanaleem.substack.com/p/twitter-bad-…
Bottom line: we’re tilting toward a universe in which all discourse is subordinate to activism; everything is a narrative, and if you don’t stay on message then you’re contributing to the other team on any given issue.
What this does is eliminate the possibility of public ambiguity, ambivalence, idiosyncrasy, self-interrogation.
Yes, and I think that maybe it's worth drawing a distinction between readers and posters, the latter of whom sometimes only view text as a vehicle for public self-affirmation or self-aggrandizement.
I don't know who needs to hear this, but the current state of the vote counting process unequivocally validates MY personal ideological preferences and pet projects and I secretly knew that this somewhat unexpected outcome would happen all along.
2/ I'm not picking on Fang's tweet, this is just one example I'm seeing across the ideological spectrum. But I want to point out that even in cases where people have actual data to work with, there's little actual interest in it. There's a total incuriosity about the world.
3/ We are being bombarded with so much data with so many possible mechanisms for explanation and so many pundits immediately seem to know why. There's no information-gathering process. People aren't even waiting for the final results, and are happy to use unreliable exit polls!
The big news here: Trump concedes there won't be a vaccine out by Election Day & is pivoting 100% to selling a therapeutic treatment he received as a "cure" for Covid. He's also pledging that this treatment will soon be free & accessible to all, which is a galling lie.
One of the most disturbing aspects of Trump's presidency is knowing that millions have failed to understand that we're dealing with a used care salesman who wants to sell us a car that has no brakes or air bags. Just a modicum of emotional intelligence is needed to spot this.
HIS FACE IS VISIBLY CAKED IN MAKE UP. ALL OF TRUMP'S VICES MANIFEST IN LITERAL TERMS.
Every time there's a wave of riots, there's a corresponding wave of liberal hand-wringing over whether they'll empower the opposition.
I spoke to experts about the possible electoral effects of riots in Kenosha and the answer was ...
...it's complicated. Riots can alienate voters and strengthen the opposition, but they can also mobilize sympathizers & inspire nonviolent amplifying actions that shift focus away from the potentially polarizing effects of riots.
A *lot* of this is shaped by media narratives.
.@owasow's much-discussed new study found that in 1968 “violent protests likely caused a 1.5–7.9% shift among whites toward Republicans and tipped the election” in favor of racist "law-and-order" champion Richard Nixon.
A lot of people are deeply concerned about how Trump could use his assault on the Postal Service to steal the election.
But what may be under-appreciated is that Trump does NOT have to succeed at giving GOP ballots a numerical advantage to do irreversible damage or win. /Thread
When I spoke with Lawrence Douglas, a legal scholar at Amherst College, he made a convincing case that there are scenarios in which Trump only has to succeed at creating *delays* to create politically advantageous chaos or trigger a "system meltdown."
On the day in July that Trump floated the idea of delaying the election, the reaction was a mixture of horror at his brazenly autocratic suggestion and mockery of his ignorance that any changes to Election Day can only come through Congress. But another tweet that day was darker.
Today I'm on the @nytimes' "The Daily" podcast talking with @Jonesieman about my personal brush with "cancel culture."
Here's a thread on the surreal story of the attempted "triple cancellation" I witnessed — and why I don't use the term "cancel culture" anymore.
So this whole episode went down in July, when I saw someone rallying a pack of online vigilantes to identify and pressure the employer of the infamous Florida Costco customer who went viral for yelling at a customer asking him to wear a mask.
From what I could tell, the Costco guy's behavior was terribly inappropriate, aggressive, and at least a bit unhinged. But I was skeptical of the idea that it was was judicious to immediately target this person for a job-firing campaign based on a 15-second clip.
This successful campaign by @khoaphan to swiftly get someone fired for being an asshole in a grocery store is a good example of concerns that some of us — across the political spectrum — have about mob justice and so-called cancel culture.
I think targeting jobs is a bad idea.
There is no doubt that this guy was unhinged and behaved in a socially unacceptable manner. By all means, criticize the person, shame them on social media. But targeting someone's job when we live in an anarcho-capitalist dystopia with no social safety net is wild. /2
Our society has extremely weak protections for the unemployed, and most people get health insurance for themselves, and often their family, through their employer. Moreover, if this is how you lose your job you may end up radioactive on the job market for months or years. /3