What did the Ash’ari scholars say about Abu Hanifa?
Abul Hassan Al-ashari
The 9th group from the Murjia, Abu Hanifa and his companions, they claim faith is knowing and affirming Allah, knowing and affirming the prophet, with what came to him from Allah in general without explanation.
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Al-juwayni Al-ashari said:
And as for Abu Hanifa, he was not from the Mujtahideen to begin with, because he didn't know Arabic, and he didn't know Ahadith to the point he accepted all weak narrations and opposed all authentic narrations, and he didn't know usool.......
.........therefore he placed Qiyas above Ahadith and due to his lack of Fiqh his madhab was all over the place with contradictions and incoherence.
And he used to say Iman isn't harmed by sins like actions are of no benefit with kufur.
And about this statement, it is said Abu Hanifa fell into Irja twice, this is the madhab (murjia), so how can it be thought that a person in this condition can be a Mujtahid.
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Al-ghazali Al-ashari
And as for Abu Hanifa, he was not a Mujtahid, because he didn't know language (Arabic), and he didn't know Ahadith, and for this he had a tendency in accepting weak Ahadith and rejecting the authentic from it.
He wasn't a faqeeh rather he was pretending to be / he was consistently upon opposition to and in contradiction of Usul and its origin
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Does fighting and killing “Muslims” who profess the Shahada, believe in Allah & say they worship him alone, accept Muhammad as the messenger of Allah and are people of the Qiblah, make one from the Khawarij?
There are many who say yes to this question believing that such an action only comes from those who are from the Khawarij
But is this correct?
To understand this we will look back at the actions of the the Sahaba and most famously the wars of Apostasy.
We know during the wars of Riddah there were different groups fought for different reasons, those who returned to idolatry, those who followed a false prophet, and there were also those who Abu Bakar fought for refusing to pay the Zakah.
Are actions from the foundations of Iman and can it take you out of the fold of Islam?
There exists the deviant belief that actions are not a requirement for one to have Iman nor are actions in of themselves able to take you out of Islam.
Meaning that if you live without ever doing any action and simply believe in your heart then you’re a believer with Iman.
Let’s have a look at the belief of the Sahaba and see if this is inline with them.
Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah in his Minhaj Al-Sunnah
He says that one of the greatest forms of Jihad is to clarify falsehood and defend the Quran and Sunnah against the innovators.
“And all the innovations: like the innovations of the Khawarij, Shia, Murjia and Qadariyyah have similarities in the texts of the Prophets, unlike the innovations of the Jahmiyyah because they don’t have with them evidences from the revelations in the first place,
and that is why it was the last innovation to occur in Islam, and when it occurred the Imams of the Salaf made takfir of its people because they know the reality of their speech negates the existence of the creator, their most knowledgeable scholars become like Pharaoh
Imam Al-Tabari talks about the Ashari belief of Kalam Nafsi regarding the Quran.
He concluded that it is disbelief that takes one out of the fold of Islam.
First what is the Ashari belief?
The Asharis believe in Kalam Nafsi which is the uncreated Quran from the speech of Allah in the heavens and that the Quran we have with us today on the Earth is created
You can read more on that on the the linked thread
Now what does Imam Al-Tabari say about this belief
He says:
“The Quran is the speech of Allah that he revealed and it is from the meanings of his Towheed, what’s correct from the statement in this matter for us is that, the speech of Allah is uncreated
You guys now want to attribute lies to me like the way you do with our Imams from the Salaf or have you just lost your ability to read? This is such a desperate attempt at a reply, all you have done is reply to points I never made.
1) Where did I attribute any statement or an Athar to Imam Malik? Those were the words of Khuwayz Mindaad in his own book with his own understanding of the Malikiyyah Before him, he didn't quote Imam Malik or say this is his speech, there's literally no isnaad needed.
2) I simply shared what Ibn Abd Al-Barr said regarding Ahlul Kalam and put it into context using the statement of Khuwayz that Ibn Abd Al-Barr brings from the book of Khuwayz in regards to Ahlul Kalam, and show how another scholar from the Malikis made tabdee of the Ashairah.
Imam Abu Hamid Al-Isfarayini stance against the Ashairah and his Tabdee of Aba Bakar Al-Baqilani.
Imam Abu Hamid Al-Isfarayini who was the Imam of the Shafi'iyyah in the 4th century and the biggest Faqeeh of the Madhab in his time, would disassociate himself from the Ashairah and would harshly rebuke their scholars as deviants such as Al-Baqilani.
Imam Shaykh Abu Al-Hassan Al-Karji Al-Shafi'i said:
( كان الشيخ أبو حامد الاسفراييني شديد الإنكار على الباقلاني وأصحاب الكلام )
وقال أيضاً : ( كان الشيخ أبو حامد الاسفراييني إمام الأئمة الذي طبق الأرض علماً وأصحاباً إذا سعى إلى الجمعة من - قطيعة الكرخ - إلى الجامع