There is a popular saying- 'lies, damn lies, and statistics.' Most Risk Management philosophies that Traders base their systems on are grounded on some form of statistics be they Expectancy, RR, Win Loss Ratio, Drawdowns etc. But how realistic are these really?
So a system with an Expectancy of 1 means you will make 1 on every 1 Risked. But over how many Trades has this Expectancy been calculated? 100, 1,000, 10,000? Statistics on such types of analysis generally follow a Normal Distribution represented by the famous Bell Curve
To get a good representation of how a system will work out, you need a very large set of observations. Very few Traders capture these. Secondly, and more importantly, the figure is not absolute. It is subject to a fairly wide range of variance
So a system with a Win Loss Ratio of 60% will give you, on an average, 60 winning Trades over every 100 over a large series of 100 Trades. But that is not to say that you will not run into an observation, or a series of 100 Trades where only 10 will work out.
Black Swans don't only happen with individual Trades- they happen with Systems too. Ultimately your System may work out and perform as expected but that's of little comfort if you're bankrupt before it happens
So while it's good to have a Statistical underpinning to your Trading System, one should be prepared for bad things to happen and not have blind faith in a backtested System ultimately working out. Remember Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent
My personal belief is that given enough time and Occurances, every system, no matter how good, will suffer catastrophic failure. For most it may not happen in their lifetime. For others, it may happen quickly. Markets are always capable of producing an event which will force this
What is well known and written about is that Richard Dennis designed the Turtle Trading System and made humongous amounts of Money. Less known is that his last hedge fund had to be shut down when it suffered unacceptable losses which were well beyond projected parameters
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There are many great setups from some of the world's best Traders in the world available for on the web- all of which have edge and provide a great living for their practitioners. Some such as breakouts, pullbacks, flags, pennants etc are simple and well known even to beginners
Unfortunately 95% of Traders are unable to Trade them profitably and waste their entire life in trying to discover one which they can. The problem is not in the setup per se but with other issues such as Capital Allocation, Position Sizing, Money Management and Psychology
All these issues appear to be very simple in nature, and can probably be summarized in one page, but turn out to be extremely difficult to implement in practice. To some extent they are counter intuitive to the way we are conditioned to think.
There is a feeling that by System Trading you can somehow miraculously dramatically cut down the time to become a Profitable Trader. Nothing can be further from the truth. forbes.com/sites/brettste…
And I feel that many new System Traders are too quick to pronounce it as the best way to Trade. Let them take one of the inevitable big drawdowns that this type of Trading results in and then we'll talk.
Lot of feedback on this tweet. I am not against System Trading. In fact I have been trying to find one to deploy some part of my Capital unsuccessfully for the last 2 years. Let me attempt to explain the difficulty in another way
I have always been a discretionary Trader. Have made several attempts at trying my hand at System Trading but somehow have never cottoned on to the idea mainly for 2 reasons. Firstly, the concept of backtesting goes against my core beliefs.
Unlike others who have attained great success with backtested Strategies, my belief is that every moment in the Markets is unique and just because a certain Strategy worked in the past doesn't guarantee it will work in the future
Secondly, I find the idea of accepting big- and I find 10% huge- unacceptable even though the end result may be a huge payoff in the long run. Trading high Probability Options Strategies has spoilt me and I rarely have losing months let alone drawdowns.
The biggest fraud on Social Media is the idea that one can make a living as a Full Time Trader with a small amount of Capital. So many MTM Screenshots showing huge Profits and Traders talking about earning fantastic ROI's on Capital employed.
I've watched the best Traders in the business Trade and any of them would be content with a 30% RoC-very few make it. Trust me, it is impossible to consistently generate 60% type of RoC's on Capital on an amount which will enable you to live decently by Trading full time
While this kind of Return may be possible fo a short time, it will come with a level of Risk which is certain to blow up any account in short order. My personal view is that if one needs say Rs 1.5 lacs/month, they should have a Trading Capital of at least Rs 1cr
Systems Trading or Discretionary Trading? Let's discuss. Will give my thoughts after receiving some responses.
Let me start by saying that I have seen people consistently make Money from all kinds of Trading Techniques right from rigid Rule based Systems to completely Random Entry. So my views are just that- my views and in no way reflect an absolute view. Trade whatever works for you
By Discretionary Trading I mean a Rule based System where the Trader still retains discretion on whether or not to take a Trade based on his current view of the Market. By System Trading I refer to Traders who have evolved entry and exit Rules based on extensive backtesting
There seems to be an impression in the Markets that Trading is very simple and making Money from the Markets is a piece of cake. Spend a few years developing a system, backtest it with a few years of data to ensure it works and voila- you are set for life
Unfortunately Trading live Markets is far more complex than that. Times change, Markets change and systems that minted Money start giving back all of it and more. This can happen overnight. Also there is a lot of talk about 'non discretionary' Systems
As if that's a panacea to which will allow you to leave your brains and emotions at home! Read book on Jim Simons- perhaps the most successful Systems Trader and you will find that he overrides his system often and continues to harbor doubts on whether it will continue to work