"She responded to Bender that she was trying to get Google to consider the ethical implications of large language models."
Well. Thats how THAT went.
I didn't "exit" "leave" or "depart" tho in so much as I was fired.
"With very few laws regulating AI in the United States, companies and academic institutions often make their own rules about what is and isn't okay when developing increasingly powerful software. "
In a statement, Google said it has hundreds of people working on responsible AI, and has produced more than 200 publications related to building responsible AI in the past year
Thats their MO any time they fire someone, they like to make them look like they are JUST ONE of many
They said the same thing when they pushed out Meredith
"The company, which has faced public criticism from its employees over its handling of sexual harassment and discrimination in the workplace, has previously pledged to "build a more equitable and respectful workplace."
Uhuh
I do documentation of such incidents. Some more than others though cause they cutoff my email access...
"The outside world sees us much more as experts, really respects us a lot more than anyone at Google," Gebru said. "It was such a shock when I arrived there to see that"
Yep
"including Mitchell, who called it a "horrible life-changing loss in a year of horrible life-changing losses.""
Google is like you think THIS is a horrible loss? Wait till we lock you out for 4 weeks and fire you after "apologizing" for how we handle "sensitive exists.
"Dean announced several policy changes in an internal memo, saying Google plans to modify its approach for handling how certain employees leave the company after finishing a months-long review of Gebru's exit."
Imagine writing that in the morning then firing Meg in the afternoon
The company cited a review that found "multiple violations" of its code of conduct, including taking "confidential business-sensitive documents and private data of other employees."
Do tell which business-sensistive documents she took & which private data.
Do tell how harassers don't break CoC & you protect them. Or maybe you send them off with millions? Or maybe you passive aggressively don't promote them?
We're waiting.
"I have no doubt that my advocacy on race and gender issues, as well as my support of Dr. Gebru, led to me being banned and then terminated," she said.
How can anyone have any doubt that this is the case?
"It's absolutely devastating," Hanna said. "How are you supposed to do work as usual? How are you even supposed to know what kinds of things you can say? How are you supposed to know what kinds of things you're supposed to do?
"What are going to be the conditions in which the company throws you under the bus?""
You guys realize that Michael Lissack, whose been harassing us for months, and who congratulated Jeff Dean and Marian Croak, had also emailed Alex saying "you're next" right?
"On Monday, Google Walkout for Real Change, an activism group formed in 2018 by Google employees to protest sexual harassment and misconduct at the company, called for those in the AI field to stand in solidarity with the AI ethics group."
What grassroots organizing looks like.
"But until Google provides some transparency about its research and publication processes, Bender thinks "everything that comes out of Google has a big asterisk next to it.""
"A recent Reuters report that Google lawyers had edited one of its researchers' AI papers is also fueling mistrust regarding work that comes out of the company. (Google responded to Reuters by saying it edited the paper due to inaccurate usage of legal terms.)"
HUH?
INACCURATE USAGE? These people don't stop. Lawyers edit scientific work & talk about "inaccurate usage of legal terms?" how about the results you made them remove? How about "strike a positive tone?" How about removing all uses of the word "privacy?"
ZERO SHAME at this company
"In early March, the FAccT conference halted its sponsorship agreement with Google. Gebru is one of the conference's founders, and served as a member of FAccT's first executive committee."
Not sure if I'd be considered a founder but I was a founding member of the EC
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"Here, we detail the intensity and ferocity of this abuse, and demonstrate how it is designed not only to vilify a journalism icon, but to discredit journalism itself, and shatter public trust in facts...."
"These attacks have also created an enabling environment for Ressa’s persecution and prosecution in the Philippines. Now, her life is at risk and she faces the prospect of decades in jail, proving that there is nothing virtual about online violence."
"Despite fledgling attempts to address hate speech within the social media ecosystem, the platforms are the vectors which facilitate these attacks, creating an enabling environment for the State-led legal harassment of Ressa."
@schrep@_KarenHao I would not respond like this to Karen's extensive, well thought out piece. Those of use at the forefront of this field, are not "less motivated" after reading the piece.
The issue is that we have fought hard to convince people in power, such as yourself who...
@schrep@_KarenHao have not faced the very real consequences of misinformation and all other issues that have been fueling all sorts of issues. Most recently, crimes against humanity in Ethiopia. @L_badikho has even been studying this in the Moroccan setting, ON HIS OWN TIME not because its fun...
@schrep@_KarenHao@L_badikho but because his life & the lives of many others are in danger & the shallow understanding of FB executives & lack of will to put required resources, makes it necessary for him to do this. Its impossible to convince those in power of the gravity because they're not the ones dying.
This paper already seems to be making an impact, so its extra disheartening that those who spent so much time contributing to it, and without whom it wouldn't have been what it is, aren't allowed to receive credit for it. Every single author was integral to the paper. 2/5
I just can't believe that this was the result of simply writing this paper. Honestly, just sitting here at a conference watching a talk, and waiting for Q&A and reflecting a tiny bit, I can't believe this was the result months after I first sent Emily this message: 3/5
The damage Jeff Dean has done with his gaslighting email & insinuating we were trying to dox anonymous reviewers in some sort of review process because we're not researchers who can take criticism: 1st Hacker News comment about this NBC article: 1\4 nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news…
"Important to remember where these allegations originate from. Timnit Gebru was fired from Google after threatening to quit unless Google reveled the identities of the reviewers of her paper that was not received well while accusing them of sex/race based discrimination."
2/4
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=263973…
"You can find some of the experiences of her from previous colleagues. You'll find the toxicity that she used in her time there and how she is picking the race/sex card on every situation. This is likely a continuation of that." 3/4
"But after months went by with no meaningful update from the EEOC, I decided to pursue a lawsuit, even though plenty of attorneys advised me to leave it alone. “Google will eat you alive,” one said. "
"During the precious few hours of the day when I’m not working or caring for my children, I’m mired in the details of my legal battle. And, unlike Google, I don’t have a full staff working on my case. My entire life has been opened up for analysis and scrutiny:"
"Google has subpoenaed employment records from my subsequent jobs and, because I’m asking for emotional damages, they also get access to some of the most intimate details of my life, like my medical records. "
One of the things Jeff Dean keeps on doing is thrashing this paper: arxiv.org/abs/1906.02243 by @strubell Ananya Ganesh & Andrew McCallum. Andrew MacCallum even has a Google affiliation from what I understand, at least he did when I was there. 1\4
This is one of the first papers where researchers estimate energy consumption in THEIR OWN research and development process of models THEY develop. They write down what process they used and how they made these estimates. Why someone wants to harp on this work is beyond me. 2\4
On the other hand, Joelle Pineau, co-lead of FAIR, is a co-author on a paper building on this work. jmlr.org/papers/volume2…
The leader of one company's research org uses his power to tarnish this work & acts incredibly defensively, leader of a peer org builds on it. 3\4