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Mar 20, 2021 10 tweets 2 min read Read on X
Recently had a patient who was really suffering from very miserable opioid withdrawal after stopping heroin (on top of some other unpleasant things) tell me their family had convinced them not to start buprenorphine (suboxone) therapy because “it’s just legal heroin”

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So we have a condition associated with human suffering and also associated with high rates of death.

For those against drugs, know that untreated withdrawal is a big driver of recurrent drug use.

And we have old, evidence-based medicines that treat withdrawal. Why not use them?
Bup (suboxone) is actually very unlike other opioids bc it is a partial-agonist at traditional opioid receptors, so has a ceiling effect for things that cause overdose (like respiratory depression) in adults. I’ve seen someone take a 90 day supply at once with no adverse effects.
Methadone, too, is not the same because it has slower uptake & a long half life so that it doesn’t lead to ups & downs or withdrawal (that’s associated with deaths). Methadone is also a regulated product and people know they are getting methadone, not something like carfentanil.
Taking this a step further, “legal heroin” is a thing that exists in a number of countries & is far safer than untreated withdrawal but is also much safer than illegal heroin. Again, most of the time because you can guarantee it’s not carfentanil & it’s not from the black market.
To summarize:

Using medicines to treat withdrawal or addiction is not just “replacing one addiction/drug with another”

“Legal heroin” should be the goal, not a perjorative. Criminalizing heroin & destroying the supply was the #1 driver of our current synthetic overdose crisis
@michaelbmarlin @st4reintoabyss @UnaDispatch I can even accept increased use if it means decreased deaths. Use is manageable, death is less so.
@michaelbmarlin @st4reintoabyss @UnaDispatch In the case of opium specifically this was also pushed really hard as a multinational foreign policy and by large corporations to control Chinese citizens.
@michaelbmarlin @UnaDispatch @st4reintoabyss From a pure numbers standpoint criminalization has never had better outcomes
@michaelbmarlin @UnaDispatch @st4reintoabyss Then the question is how do we let people access those things? I don’t think everyone should need a prescription to get heroin or whatever because then it’s creating an identical issue where people who don’t want to provide access will make it impossible.

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Omg shut up already you ignorant hypocrite
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The people who oppose harm reduction are literally the most ignorant people alive. For starters, they oppose reducing preventable harms.
Is it ad hominem to tell someone who said abstinence from drugs is their policy that they are an ignorant hypocrite if they love a regulated drug that used to be prohibited? Or is this person an ignorant hypocrite
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Unsurprising response given Alison’s increasing level of bias against harm reduction. Unserious person and unserious publication. If you want to put personal opinions on the front page that contradict an entire body of evidence then at least acknowledge the person’s financial COI
I asked the account representing the journal for Alcoholism and Drug Abuse Weekly why they’d platform someone without acknowledging they had a financial conflict of interest and were espousing views contradicted by evidence
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Keith Humphreys makes 6 figures from the pharmaceutical company that produces some of the only available/approved medicines for treatment of addiction and known for market manipulation/profiteering. He also frequently spreads unscientific misinformation. npr.org/2023/06/02/117…
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Claiming ignorance of the $COI (still ignoring it’s a personal opinion that contradicts a large body of evidence) - & if so then why then block? Simultaneously posting falsehoods about harm reduction being a $COI. This is what I mean by unserious. Harm reduction has no money lol
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In case you forgot who RFK’s favorite “medical expert,” Sherri Tenpenny is, she’s the one who said COVID vaccines ‘contain nanoparticles that use quantum entanglement technology to create trans humans & give people an IP address to connect to the D matrix’
It’s just basic physics, you guys
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Since antivaxxers refuse to stop regurgitating this blatant lie, let me clarify:

Thalidomide was not FDA approved in the United States until 1998 -was never an approved or prescribable drug before then- and only then for leprosy & later cancer (it was never allowed in pregnancy)
Thanks to *a scientist* (the incredible Frances Oldham Kelsey) who correctly reviewed the data and found it inadequate for safety. She assessed the available trials as low quality. She is a hero and it was because she was an expert at science and interpreting scientific data.
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LymeRix was FDA approved in 1998. It had a measured 75% efficacy after a 3-dose regimen over 12 months. This is pretty good. I’d definitely take 75% over 0%. But back then Lyme was more isolated to small pockets in the Northeast and “easily treatable” with 4+ weeks of doxycycline
I put that in quotes cause taking doxycyline is miserable in my opinion and 4 or more weeks sounds like a nightmare. But I digress. So the vaccine wasn’t really recommended to many people for those reasons. Then a rumor was started that antivaxxers picked up on and went to work…
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If someone tells you that doctors don’t care about your diet, sleep and exercise then they probably don’t have any actual knowledge or understanding of the entirety of medicine…and they’re probably trying to sell you their “alternative”
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