So I read this paper, & there's an entire subsection dedicated to a new supposed new (problematic) type of figure — the Ethics Unicorn. But no example of such a person, or even such thinking, is given. I have never encountered this. It seems like folklore.
I mean, maybe I am not in trendy enough tech circles? Maybe some of the engineers at the NYT who have a lot of opinions about what the edit staff should & shouldn't be publishing would fall into this category?
At any rate, the lone citation there is to an explainer on the "full-stack unicorn developer." This Ethics Unicorn character is left to the imagination, I guess.
Two other things I found odd: the lack of cross-disciplinary representation in the authorship of a paper about how it's bad that disciplines are siloed, & the generally impenetrable, unreadable academic prose style of a paper on "pedagogy."
In general I think the paper's point about the current engineering ethics approach — which was also how I was trained in undergrad, & involves trying to convince individual engineers to do the moral thing & fall on their sword to prevent harm — is bad.
Asking individual engineers to serve as a kind of last line of defense against cost-cutting, optimizations, and the profit motive is to basically give up.
But most of this paper is a lot of words to say that techbros are SO LAME, and interdisciplinary work is better than siloed work, and The System must be challenged.
And again, I don't know how you publish a paper with an actual subheading dedicated to a character that you have not a single example of, or any example of this type of thinking. How does that happen?
I think they expect that everyone will be afraid to push back on this, & that all the responses will be claps and cheers. And they are probably right. Probably no peer of theirs will attempt an actual takedown of this stuff.

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25 Mar
After a walk, I have rethought my reaction to this paper.
Reading it was what prompted my "maybe I'll give up & become a troll" tweet. But I'm now encouraged by it.
First, the depressing aspect: a whole section of this paper traffics in ancient techbro stereotypes, plus one new one they've invented themselves. These snidely offered stereotypes are basically offered up unsupported, as if we ALL KNOW AMIRITE? And this is an ACM paper!
So I'm like, this sneering collection of techbro tropes was published by the ACM, which means the citadel has fallen. It's all over. Stick a fork in American tech leadership. But then I thought about their "Ethics Unicorn" archetype, & it hit me: they're eating their own.
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24 Mar
I think nobody really realizes that this particular fight is coming, not even VCs. At some point, we will all fight on here over which party gets to be the editor whose values & linguistic quirks are reflected in the language the machines use to talk at us.
Right now, the machines are just parroting whatever giant, unruly dataset they've been fed. But soon, they will be side-loaded with a small sample of additional context (e.g. a style/usage reference), so that they can tweak their output with reference to that context.
When that day comes, you will never, ever hear another word from the AI ethics folks about the supposed dangers of large language models (LLMs). They will pivot immediately to the fight to write the style guide that's side-loaded into the LLMs to steer the output.
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24 Mar
People are confused (& mislead) re: this tweet, so in service of procrastination I'll break it down on here.

Models need to be really really large (right now) to capture enough of language that their output sounds authentic. Hence large language models (LLMs).
"Large" means 2 things: a large number of parameters & a large dataset. To get the latter, a large dataset, you have to do a giant crawl of some massive corpus of text, probably on the web.

So you're going to soak up a TON of text, & because the net is so wide that dataset...
...will naturally reflect the status quo use of language. Almost definitionally "status quo" as the size approaches infinity. Well, the status quo is "problematic", right? So people want the ability to then sanitize that output so that it is not problematic. They want to steer it
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24 Mar
I'm listening to a guy explain an AI paper & I just learned a new German phrase: "they want the the egg-laying wool milk pig," which means roughly the same as "they want every child to have a pony" or some such,.
(Obviously "egg-laying wool milk pig" is one word in the original German.)
I wish we had this in English, but in a shorter version, like "the Omni-pig."

"Yeah, these guys want the Omni-pig. It does milk, wool, eggs, pork, all for free."
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24 Mar
Reading this now, but the thing that jumps out at me is the aesthetics of CEOs. No matter how awkward & nerdy u looked as a lower-ranking geek, when u ascend to CEO they dip you in a vat & then hoist you out & sandblast you & air dry you. It's wild.
The main exception here is Zuck, who still looks mostly like an awkward, greasy undergrad. He has somehow avoided the CEO vat of rejuvenation and chiseling.
90's-era Pat vs. Intel CEO Pat.
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24 Mar
A thing that puzzles me: people who spend a lot of time obsessing over power, but who seem unwilling to acknowledge that there are different kinds of it.

Me: X has power

You: LIES! X DOES NOT CONTROL THE ALABAMA STATE LEGISLATURE!
One of the great things about the old populist tradition was they had language around a "financial power" or a "money trust", which was different than just a political power. There's also cultural power that rests in centers of academia & media.
So I find myself in these conversations re: power w/ people who seem to really, truly believe the "marginalization" language literally, as in there is only 1 single page, & the center of that 1 page == "power" while the margins == "not power".

But there's a whole book of pages!
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