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Thread: Masks and NPIs.

This thread reviews information published from Oct 2019 - Dec 2020.

The point is to see what was known/believed before & after discovery of COV2.

We'll start with research on epidemic/pandemic influenza (flu) from Oct of 2019.

Aerosols vs. droplets.
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Seasonality? This was actually a known phenomenon?

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Intended impact of NPIs.

Does this look familiar? This published in October of 2019 - that's very interesting to me.

Why does this "flatten the curve" image always go to 0 with no resurgence and not have values on either axis?

Let's look at NY and FL for fun.

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Evaluation of the evidence.

Order of quality (best to worst):
1) Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs)
2) Observational Studies
3) Computer Simulations

How many RCTs have been done since COV2? None? DANMASK?

How about the CDC review of 14 RCTs covering NPIs in the community?

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Summary of Recommendations.

Masks?

For Asymptomatic:

Conditionally recommended "although there is no evidence that this is effective in reducing transmission"

For Symptomatic:

Recommended always despite no evidence

Why? Mechanistic plausibility.😐

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Surface and object cleaning?

Recommended at all times "although there is no evidence this is effective in reducing transmission."

Why? Mechanistic plausibility.😐

Contact tracing?

NOT RECOMMENDED

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Quarantine/Isolation?

Sick Individuals:

Recommended at all times but very low quality of evidence.

Exposed Individuals (not sick):

"no obvious rationale for this measure"

NOT RECOMMENDED

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School measures and closures?

Conditionally recommended with very low quality of evidence.

Should only be for a limited period of time with all adverse effects fully considered first.

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Personal Protective Measures.

Hand Hygiene?

Apparently, RCTs have not found hand hygiene to be effective against flu in community settings. I did not know this. Did you?

This only works theoretically and experimentally, so again its down to mechanistic plausibility.

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Masks?

"There was no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."

Why then does this same entity conditionally recommend wearing of masks by asymptomatic people?

"mechanistic plausibility."

No mention of the harms.

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Now, we jump to May 2020.

Different entity saying the same thing.

"these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza"

Despite what? Mechanistic plausibility...

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What changed for COV2? Why did Fauci say masks should not be worn only to then do a 180* and start acting like they were magic?

This defied all known science except "mechanistic plausibility."

Did they all mistake correlation for causation while ignoring seasonality?

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1 month later to June 2020.

By now, masks had gone from obscure to mandated for general public.

This is acknowledged while stating such mask usage is not supported by evidence.

However, it still recommends masks due to...correlation seen in recent observations (Mar-May).

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Evidence?

None for "the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people in the community to prevent infection with respiratory viruses"

Potential Benefits?

"reduced potential exposure"

Then
- Reduced stigmatization
- Virtue
- Compliance
- Source of income

😐

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Potential Harms?

- Self-contamination due to touching mask and face/eyes
- Self-contamination due to improper use, amplifying microorganism growth
- Headaches / breathing difficulties
- Skin lesions
- Communication, especially children, deaf, & developmentally challenged

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Now, Dec 2020. Did anything change?

Evidence?

No new supporting evidence, but the language was changed from

"there is no direct evidence"

to

"there is only limited and inconsistent scientific evidence"

Basically...there's no evidence, but we keep recommending anyway.

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Benefits?

Mostly the same except they reworded the "compliance" bullet. Still have virtue listed.

It specifically references reduced spread of "droplets" without mentioning aerosols.

Also claims masks prevent TB and Flu but does not provide a reference with evidence.

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Harms?

2 strange changes:

1) First, both of the "self-contamination" bullets were removed. Why? There went from first on the list to non-existent

2) Added a very interesting one: "a false sense of security"

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Guidance?

In the end, "despite the limited evidence of efficacy of mask wearing in community settings," they still advise mask wearing.

😐

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This is enough to force children to wear masks of random materials for many hours each day?

This is enough to scare people into not only wearing masks wherever they go but even wearing 2?

We must stop. Don't be fooled. Don't let yourself be coerced into compliance.

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References.

WHO (Oct 2019):
apps.who.int/iris/bitstream…

CDC (May 2019):
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26…

WHO (Jun 2020):
apps.who.int/iris/bitstream…

WHO (Dec 2020):
who.int/publications/i…

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BONUS

In the vein of "correlation-as-causation" with observational studies, this happened in November.

A team at UCSF, including @MonicaGandhi9 - who I wish to enter a dialogue with - withdrew a pre-print that was originally going to correlate mask mandates w/ decreased Hosps. https://www.medrxiv.org/con...

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Kelley, did you know the WHO actually did reduce that harms list in the Dec 2020 update of that same document?

Conspicuously, they removed both “self-contamination” bullets.

More undue influence yet again?

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Oh, and these same 2 documents say the following about mask effectiveness. ImageImage
And what was their final recommendation?

“Despite the limited evidence of protective efficacy.”

They still advised community mask wearing in certain settings.

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Mar 14, 2023
Dr. Gandhi, I do not believe PH will simply “recommend.”

I have hate in my heart for your profession, and it will not go away easily.

I say this because I have always believed you cared even when I was screaming at you to stop promoting school masking based on Hosp census.
If you are truly trying to drive the PH ship towards being helpful and trustworthy, please take my comments and those of others to heart.

We don’t just not trust you. WE _HATE_ YOU (public health community).

It is a deep resentment that must first be addressed and atoned for.
Exactly right.

And the CDC + Fauci + all major US Gov PH is still doing it. They haven’t budged an inch.
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Mar 13, 2023
Sure, I will respond genuinely on the basis you are asking earnestly.

First, I think EVERYTHING in the screenshot is bad:

1) “Ritual and solidarity” are brainwashing techniques. Fooling/coercing people into accepting and then propagating a measure is dastardly to begin with

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2) Doing that with a measure that is ineffective is downright evil, because it brainwashes people unknowingly into a self-harming act both directly (unsanitary, dehumanizing, social detriment, etc) and indirectly (increased exposure due to false sense of security)

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3) Nothing wrong with people protecting themselves, but community masking with any material was not protective for the individual and especially not the community. It was always a lie even if Zeynep truly believed in masks personally

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Feb 7, 2023
NYC CoV2 Update: 2/7/23

Not many Unvaxxed getting Vaxxed since July 2022.

Ratio of Vaxxed outcomes remaining steady since March of 2022.

Limitations/Caveats:
- I'm using 2020 census pop as the denominator
- I'm combining Boosted + Full Vax
- NYC excludes Partial Vax outcomes
The reason I show NYC data as "% Share of Outcomes" is because @nycHealthy chooses to show "age-adjusted per 100k" Vax vs. Unvax rates.

...but doing that is susceptible inaccurate Unvax denominators.

Here, you can see how far off those denominators are:

Hold2 vs. DOH
How do they explain this?

1) Double-counting multi-race individuals
2) Still using the 2019 intercensal population estimates based on the 2010 census

How can they still not be using 2020 Census numbers in 2023?
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