This is an excellent dissection of the faulty reasoning in the 'Proximal Origin' paper, and they lay out the reasons why lab spillover of Covid-19 remains a possibility and should not be excluded.

Too many points to note, so just read the whole thing!
zmescience.com/other/pieces/h…
Some choice quotes: "The authors only prove the receptor-binding domain of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is not ideal for binding to human ACE2 receptors. This doesn’t tell us anything about whether the virus was actually manipulated, or for which purpose."
They don't "take into consideration more recent literature — new techniques to engineer coronaviruses have emerged after 2014 – or even the possibility that unpublished techniques could have been used to engineer SARS-CoV-2."
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
"A proximal origin of the virus does not exclude that humans involuntarily or unwittingly releasing the virus initiated the pandemic..Therefore, we cannot exclude that the first zoonotic transmission occurred because of investigative research conducted on coronaviruses."
"they calculated a temporal distance between SARS-CoV-2 and its closest known virus and determined this is too long for any genetic manipulation to have occurred. This is however true only if they assumed natural evolution occurred – without human intervention."
"In principle, using available SARS-like viral strains, researchers could have selected viruses for their ability to infect human cells. This does not exclude the proximal origin of the virus, as in this case humans could have simply assisted the process"
"As natural evolution in the lab can be pushed to occur at much faster rates than in nature, a temporal analysis of the divergence between two viruses in this specific context is nonsense"
"the authors say that “a hypothetical generation of SARS-CoV-2 by cell culture or animal passage would have required prior isolation of a progenitor virus with very high genetic similarity, which has not been described”"
"In this line, authors are substantially suggesting that if something hasn’t been published, it cannot have happened and cannot be true."

And the most important point, "canceling more or less unlikely theories prior to having proved them wrong is not what a scientist should do."

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30 Mar
Nothing to back it up, leaving aside that it contradicts two thesis by Chinese doctors and scientists on this subject. () It's just a trust me and we aren't going to look into it. Image
Only after the sequence identity of RaTG13 with BatCoV/4991, and the miners pneumonia connection was pointed out several times, Shi and her team confirmed this nine months later in an addendum to their original @nature article.
SARS-CoV-2 is thus related to a coronavirus that caused six cases of SARS-like pneumonia in miners, as early as in 2012, and from which samples were collected and stored in the institute in Wuhan.
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30 Mar
What is certain is that bats and other animals, were and are kept in the Wuhan labs, and that they have one of the world's most extensive collections of bat coronaviruses.
It is also certain that WIV received funding from the NIH to study and work specifically on SARSr-CoVs collected from South China, and which had the potential to jump over to humans.
It is also proven that one of the WHO team member orchestrated statements and and carried out maneuvers to distort the search for what really happened. So there's that.
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29 Mar
Daszak: We met with them. We said, "Do you audit the lab?" And they said, "Annually." "Did it you audit it after the outbreak?" "Yes." "Was anything found?" "No." "Do you test your staff?" "Yes."

Oh well, ok that settles it then.
cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-…
Daszak: "We didn't see any evidence of any false reporting or cover-up in the work that we did in China."

No waaay...

False reporting or cover-up in China??????? It's not like there are plenty of motive on their part to cover it up!!!!

No Waaaaayyy....
"If the virus originated in animals, one of the mysteries has been: how did it travel the thousand miles from the bat caves in southern China to Wuhan?"

Nothing to see here. Not a damn thing. Image
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28 Mar
Professor Didiar Sicard: "the WHO mission in China is just a sham.. I was very shocked that people agreed to take on this mission, especially since there are conflicts of interest."
franceculture.fr/amp/sciences/d…
"I find that when the WHO agrees to carry out an almost supervised mission, it is a little as if the killer was participating in the investigation into the crime, and that it was he who decided whether the police should open such and such a door!"
"They always remind us that we cannot rule out the laboratory trail.. This is why international teams free to do so should carry out real investigative work. It's not just about going to a lab, making a visit and asking, “So what were the precautionary measures you were taking?""
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With the investigation "SARS-CoV-2: Anatomy of a Conspiracy", @Presa_Diretta returns to deal with the origins of Covid.

Watch @FilippaLentzos, @JamieMetzl, @Ayjchan and @DecrolyE among others, in an interview with @lisaiotti.

Read some excerpts here:
video.lastampa.it/dossier/corona…
Filippa: “This was not an independent investigation. This was a joint China-WHO investigation, which means it was very political from the start. You see it in the terms of the agreement. This can be seen in the selection of the team's experts."
Metzl: "since one of the main possible theories is an accidental escape from the laboratory of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, any scientist who has been involved in this type of collaboration should not be part of the investigation."
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22 Mar
SARS-CoV-2 Through the Lens of Computational Biology: "...efforts to clarify the origins of the virus would greatly benefit from new samples..particularly China. The cave..where RaTG13 was found is undoubtedly one the most interesting areas to search..."
gdr-bim.cnrs.fr/wp-content/upl…
"Re-analyzing the tissues collected from some of the Yunnan miners who fell sick in 2012/2013 would also be of utmost interest." Why hasn't these been done already?
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