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1/ CO2 and COVID transmission

Our paper (former preprint) is now published after peer-review in Environ. Sci. Tech. Letters:

pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/ac…
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2/ Key concept, pioneered by Rudnick & Milton (2003), is that CO2 and airborne pathogens are exhaled at the same time by infectious people

Inhaling shared air with high CO2 increases virus inhaled (if infectious person present) & thus chance of infection

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.103…
3/ Two ways to use CO2: RELATIVE to a situation; and ABSOLUTE (between situations)

RELATIVE is easily understood: wherever you are sharing air, the lower CO2, the lower risk of infection

This is key concept why we recommend CO2 meters (section 9 of )tinyurl.com/faqs-aerosol
4/ The paper does the math to show that indeed the RELATIVE risk increases as CO2 increases. #covidCO2

Importantly, the paper explores the ABSOLUTE risk. Which is more complicated. The key equation is below: Image
5/ In plain English, the summary is that:

- CO2 serves as indicator of RELATIVE risk anywhere (e.g. a choir rehearsal with half the CO2 enhancement is twice as safe as original; same for library)

- ABSOLUTE risk at the same CO2 is much higher at choir rehearsal than library
6/ Which factors increase risk?

- Strong vocalization (much more virus out)
- Lack of masking (more virus out and breathed in)
- Breathed volume (e.g. exercise, more virus inhaled)
- Event duration (more virus inhaled)
- Infection rate in population (chance of infected present)
7/ You can estimate the amount of CO2 present in a given activity with our COVID Aerosol Transmission Estimator:



If you do the measurements for an activity, adjust ventilation rate till you match observed CO2 *average*tinyurl.com/covid-estimator
8/ The paper should be of most interest to scientists. These details are too complex for most people. Key ideas are simpler:

- Always higher RELATIVE risk of infection as CO2 increases
- Some places much riskier than others: loud vocalization, long time, exercise, unmasked...
9/ I do believe that monitoring ventilation using low-cost shared CO2 meters is a key strategy to get out of the pandemic.

I've put my money where my mouth is and donated thousands of $$ worth of CO2 meters:

10/ If you can contribute a little to donate more high-quality CO2 meters to places that can't get them, you can do so here. So far we have donated 67 in total:

gofundme.com/f/medidores-co…
11/ If some of the air is being filtered (e.g. by portable HEPA filters), those remove the virus (as @FloriVilla3 has demonstrated by measuring it in the filters) but not CO2.

Then you can tolerate higher CO2. But high CO2 leads to cognitive decline, so it shouldn't be >> 1000
12/ These are the CO2 limits that we recommend for the pandemic: Image
13/ Some explanations of these concepts in @elpaisinenglish which are easier to understand than our paper:

14/ And more details about CO2 (sorry, only in Spanish for this one, but you can hit translate button):

15/ And of course CO2 serves to reduce the risk of transmission in shared room air *assuming that physical distance is kept*

In close proximity of someone infected, infection risk is higher (since re-breathed CO2 is also much higher than the room level, which is what we measure)
16/ If someone wants the PDF of the paper, just send me an email and I can send it to you.

Unfortunately too expensive to make it open access ($4k)

But thread and other linked documents should be enough for most ppl. Paper most useful for other scientists.
17/ Someone seems to have put the article PDF here. I verified that it is the real article, for those interested:

drive.google.com/file/d/14JwYs5…
18/ Our paper about CO2 as indicator of the risk of infection has been made publicly available in PubMed. It can be read at:



#covidCO2ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

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May 26
1/ Survey of CO2 indoors during trip

CO2 (above ~400 ppm outdoors) indicates the amount of exhaled air (& virus) trapped in a space

Also per recent scientific results by @ukhadds, CO2 helps SARS-CoV stay infectious in air much longer

@united flight boarding, pretty terrible! Image
2/ This is the trip so far:

-Low outdoors
-Pretty high ~2000 in @RideRTD bus to airport
- ok ~800 at @DENAirport, except restroom ~1500. Not sure why restrooms at this airport are so often poorly ventilated
- Then boarding on @united, ventilation OFF, so huge increase till ON Image
3/ For details of the recent results on how and why CO2 makes SARS-CoV-2 stay infectious much longer in the air, see this recent thread by @ukhadds

Read 9 tweets
May 8
1/ "After four years of fighting about it, @WHO has finally proclaimed that viruses, including the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID, can be spread through the air"



By @maggiemfoxscientificamerican.com/article/a-figh…
2/ "It took four years to get here because some leaders in public health, medicine and science clung too tightly to precision and semantics"

"One particular moment of shame came on March 28, 2020, when WHO tweeted: “FACT: #COVID19 is NOT airborne.”

3/ "Words matter. When people heard that COVID might spread on surfaces, they wasted time wiping down groceries. People who misunderstood airborne spread needlessly wore masks on outdoor walks and veered off sidewalks to avoid their neighbors."
Read 7 tweets
Apr 18
1/ @WHO has published a report on updated terminology for disease transmission

I've seen some debate about it. My take:

- Terminology itself is ok. Big progress
- But no recommendations of how to protect!

Report:

Press release: who.int/publications/m…
who.int/news/item/18-0…
2/ The report was likely the result of intense pressure on @WHO during the pandemic:

- They denied that #COVIDIsAirborne on March 2020
- They finally accepted it 2 years later

nature.com/articles/d4158…
@WHO 3/ To their credit, @WHO did invite some of their critics to be part of the committee.

What was the terminology before. In medical circles:

- droplet transmission: if it happened in close proximity, or if particles were > 5 microns

- airborne transmission: if it happened far
Read 34 tweets
Mar 28
1/ New paper in @ScienceMagazine: "Mandating Indoor Air Quality for Public Buildings"

Explaining current status of indoor air quality standards (in short: bad or non-existent), the huge health benefits that would arise from them & proposing a path forward
science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…
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2/ "People living in urban & industrialized societies, which are expanding globally, spend more than 90% of time indoors, breathing indoor air (IA)."

"Most countries do NOT have legislated indoor air quality (IAQ) performance standards for public spaces"

science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…
3/ "Few building codes address operation, maintenance, and retrofitting, and most do NOT focus on airborne disease transmission."

"We propose that Indoor Air Quality (IAQ) standards be mandatory for public spaces"

science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…
Read 14 tweets
Oct 4, 2023
1/ Checking the ventilation by measuring CO2 as I travel to the #AAAR2023 conference

@RideRTD bus to Denver airport. Bus route had started 3 min before I got in, already 1500 ppm

Typical of these @RideRTD buses, poor ventilation Image
2/ Not getting any better as time passes in the @rideRTD bus to the airport...

7% of the air is being re-breathed, it has already been in someone else lungs when each of us breathe it. Image
@RideRTD 3/ Given the often poor-to-mediocre ventilation in US transportation systems, I wear N95 masks (not KN95, less good)

In this case @3M VFlex, which I tested at 99.99% filtration for myself

It also stays sealed when I talk, doesn't distort my speech (& add to my Spanish accent) Image
Read 14 tweets
Oct 2, 2023
1/ Video de mi presentación sobre "Transmisión de enfermedades por el aire: cómo funciona, por qué se malentendió, y cómo reducirla"

como parte de la presentación del libro de ventilación de @aireamos

2/ Las diapositivas se pueden bajar de este enlace.

(Son de una charla más larga así que tienen más detalles, pero están todas las de la presentación de @Aireamos)

drive.google.com/file/d/1Bs0RRG…
@aireamos 3/ Miguel Ángel Campano @MA_Campano y @Aireamos han sido los motores del libro de ventilación:

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