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Apr 21, 2021 21 tweets 8 min read Read on X
So I have been looking at Soppitt's PDA and how it relates to other conditions diagram. This is my version of Soppitt's diagram (2021, p299). I fully spelled out ADHD's name.
This is my version of the diagram. I might change the "Rational Demand Avoidance" to "Pathological Demand Avoidance", as to me its the same thing. Nominally using RDA as it is a better name than PDA.
I have added anxiety in between autism and trauma circles. I have added trauma/ developmental trauma to recognise some view PDA to be developmental (even though that is optional for a PDA dx/ not needed).
Trauma being properly included as I think PDA is can be caused by trauma, especially at lower diagnostic thresholds & under transactional approaches to PDA.
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I have changed the wording to be a bit more specific. Does this look OK, or should I go back to ones where I use "Features overlap"?
I need to explain why PDA is shown as a star, this is because PDA as a construct seems to have features of many conditions. Most diagnostic thresholds are relatively broad, including Newson's.
It does not seem right to me, that PDA is shown as small dot compared to other constructs.

The advantage of this image it shows that PDA has a "spikey profile" of features (symptoms depending on the outlook).
This makes sense considering comments of PDA seems to contain features from other conditions/ constructs. It supports various research results which indicate PDA is predicted by OCD/ ADHD (hyperactivity)/ Conduct issues/ Personality Predictors.
Or other research that find associations between autism, anxiety and conduct problems.

It helps to explain the diverse amount of perspectives on PDA, like some view it as autism. Some think PDA is seen in non-autistic persons.
What can happen is that features of PDA that are associated with other conditions/ constructs, that a person expresses can change over time (lifespan)/ person's transient situations. Also explains how observer's bias can see different aspects of PDA.
I also think it helps to explain, why PDA is striking to people, that it just seems to have a unique blend of features from established constructs, that make it so recognisable.
At the same time it underlies how PDA has no feature that is specific to it. Which is noted many times in the PDA literature.
I think the diagram makes sense within the literature. I tried to accommodate various outlooks on PDA. Personally, I considered renaming autism circle with anxiety. You know professionalism and personal integrity.
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Here is the current version & my version of Soppitt's (2021, p299) for reference. Open to feedback on it.
@Georgin24661487 you will probably be interested in this thread.
Oh Soppitt's original, image is a scan. I also changed "ASD" to "Autism".
Just including other relevant information before tagging thread reader app. So this is my version of Rosen et al (2021) image for comparing PDA to autism. It just shows PDA being rather clunky in constituent features compared to autism.
Just other relevant issues with Developmental definition and reasons why PDA is not intrinsically developmental in nature.
Sorry I need to re-upload comparing Soppitt's original venn diagram to editing of his.
I have added capitals to my edits of Soppitt (2021, p299). It is only a minor thing, but if people are going to use it, best to maintain standards.
I would happily receive feedback on it the image.
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Suppose those clinics who have supposedly been over diagnosing PDA, got together produced a report on how to assess/ identify PDA & said all "PDA Profile of ASD" identifications are not PDA?!
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