Thread by @ErrataRob

Neither side pays attention to the science. It’s astonishing how little people pay attention to what the CDC actually says about masks.

https://twitter.com/simplenomad/status/1389212459043545092

It’s like in Germany where people are upset at the national curfew — especially the head of their medical institute who keeps pointing out how unscientific it is.

Curfews and mask mandates happen because they are the easiest to enforce not because they are the most scientific. I noticed that in the airport where everyone is masked but nobody socially distances

The first step in trusting the science is understanding the science. As far as I can tell, the people around me neither understand the science nor actually read what scientists like the CDC says, so I’m not sure what science they think they are trusting.

They reality is that it’s not about trusting the science but about bullying. People really like bullying and “the science” is easiest because while they don’t understand it, neither do the bullied.

The hardcore antivaxx conspiracy theorists are small in number, the problem is the large number of vaccine hesitant who have legitimate fears, but who don’t get answers but just instead only get bullied.

Once you’ve politicized the science in order to bully people with all this toxic crap like “where a damn mask asshole” you just create hardened political opposition.

You know how warm air shoots out of the top of your mask into your eyes and fogs your glasses? It's because you are only wearing masks for virtue signaling and haven't actually read the CDC guidance on mask and how they should fit.
cdc.gov/coronavirus/20…

It's a totally legitimate fear that mRNA may change your DNA. It's wrong, of course. But you'll do far more if you re-read your high-school textbook that explains messenger RNA so that you can explain to the vaccine hesitant why it's wrong, rather than bullying them.

You: "We live in an advanced scientific society, so why are people afraid of vaccines?"
Me: "We live in an advanced scientific society, so why can't people remember high school biology enough to competently explain why mRNA can't change DNA?"

Yes, yes, if the worry is about a 5G microchip, then they are wacked out conspiracy theorists for which there is no hope. But they are small in number and don't matter.

What matters are those who have legitimate fears and want to wait and see.

https://twitter.com/snd_wagenseil/status/1389269723490275332

No, I don't trust the CDC, I trust science. Here's an example. Here is the current (May 2) FAQ from the CDC answering the question whether vaccines change DNA.

I think it's wrong (i.e. a lie). mRNA vaccines don't enter the nucleus, but adenovirus vaccines do (I think)

Here is the same page from a month ago where had more information. It says mRNA doesn't enter nuclear, but has a different message for adenovirus vaccines.

Everything I read about adenovirus vaccines (J&J, AstraZeneca) says the DNA does enter the nucleus, but doesn't integrate into our chromosomes. "Changing our DNA" is still not a concern, it's just that the highly edited FAQ from the CDC is in err about it entering the nucleus.

You are surrounded by bullies who tell you to believe the science who will lie to you about the science. A good example is this John Oliver piece, where he says "some evangelicals are concerned it contain cells from aborted fetuses -- which is does not".

This is a deliberate lie by Jon Oliver.
He carefully edits the quote. Evangelicals aren't concerned vaccines contain fetal cells, but that they are "indirectly connected to research that used aborted fetal cells". Which they totally are.

Sure, Joe Rogan was wrong, but he's not a liar like Jon Oliver, who doesn't care how much he lies because he's on the right side of the Holy War where the ends justify the lies.

BTW, the tainted research is just because standardized tests for modern medicine use fetal cells. If you go to the doctor at all these days (most everything is tainted) but refuse the vaccine on religious grounds, you are just being a hypocrite and nobody believes your honesty.