I wanted to go back to this question of the redundancy of the immune system when we assume that those who don't have antibodies aren't protected after vaccination (e.g. immunocompromised patients). Please remember how redundant & complex the immune system is
We have paper from our group last week that shows people with HIV may have lower antibodies after natural infection but follow-up analyses shows T cells (CD4 and CD8) preserved. If one line of immune system down, other line can help.
thelancet.com/journals/lanhi…
Know this thread is super long & sorry but it really discusses why antibodies are just "tip of iceberg" in terms of immunity (or feeling 1 part of elephant!). My patient on cancer treatment had low antibodies, but T cells just fine in research lab.
So, for those of us treating immunocompromised patients, may want to check T cells before assuming little immunity from antibodies and also we submitted a grant (as have many) on studying whether boosters (3 doses of a vaccine instead of a 2) would help immunocompromised
I am quoted in this @washingtonpost article about vaccines in immunocompromised patients. PLEASE don't consider only antibodies when you consider if protected. Immune system complex. 2 ideas: 1) Get T cell panel; 2) Booster (3rd dose). My patient here too!
washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05…

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15 May
As @sfchronicle aptly put it, new data-based CDC guidance is psychological shock; will settle; everyone can decide for themselves on masking. In meantime, India still with raging epidemic with 10% 1st dose vax rate; really shows us how mitigation strategies are tools vax solution Image
And when country opens up without vaccine, and is as crowded as India, and had a likely more transmissible variant, the epidemiology without the protection of vaccines is devastating Image
And the tragedy cannot be overstated (as Americans debate whether they trust each other on masks or whether they think the vaccine is as effective as study after study says) in a place without vaccine. Vaccine is solution; masks,distancing, ventilation are tools until solution Image
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14 May
Wanted to explain my thoughts on Yankees cases (8 total; 7 out of 8 asymptomatic) two weeks after J&J vaccine. Currently messaging you are safe 2 weeks after 2nd dose of mRNA vaccine or 2 weeks after 1st dose of J&J; think latter should change to 4 weeks
sports.yahoo.com/how-surprising…
Based on this @NEJM study of phase I/II trial of J&J vaccine. Please see how immunogenicity (immune response) increased over time from 2 to 4 to even 59 days out. Indeed, in phase 3 trial, efficacy better at 15-28 days vs 0-14 days for this reason.
nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…
So, I am telling my patients (and FDA may want to consider) that they can freely mingle 4 weeks after their 1st dose J&J, not 2 weeks. The symptomatic player likely had high enough viral load in nose to transmit to others but the 7 asymptomatic players
thelancet.com/journals/lanin…
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13 May
No need to mask/distance after vaccination. We have threads here on real-world effectiveness of vaccines (incredibly high) & how vaccinations block transmission. So, this rec by CDC based in science. Remember, incentives motivate those on fence to get vax
nytimes.com/2021/05/04/ups…
Here is thread on real-world effectiveness of vaccines (even against variants) to remind you how high the effectiveness is in the real world
And here is thread on transmission and how vaccines block transmission to reassure you that you are protecting others by getting vaccinated (protection that means masks can come off):
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13 May
This JID study was the one quoted by CDC as saying risk of outdoor transmission was 10%. However, corresponding author clarifies risk much much less than that based on review of the literature. Moreover,
there have been two additional examinations of the question not included in this review which is this report from Ireland examining >232,000 infections & finding 1/1000 linked to outside. irishtimes.com/news/ireland/i…
And this scoping review from University of Canterbury concluding that outdoor transmission very rare, citing opportunity costs of not encouraging public to congregate outdoors
canterbury.ac.uk/science-engine…
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12 May
TRANSMISSION routes - a PROPOSAL. Have seen all the discussion on aerosol spread of a pathogen (defined as small particles that can linger in air & ventilation most important) vs droplet spread (larger particles with gobs of spit, distance important) and I propose new definition
Which is to define a pathogen (e.g. SARS-CoV-2, TB, etc.) by the best way to keep people safe, best strategies for mitigation instead. We proposed a complementary 3-way non-pharmaceutical (NPI) triangle in this @TheLancetInfDis article.
thelancet.com/journals/lanin…
Masks, distancing, ventilation being most important NPI strategies but relative importance of each being defined by (traditionally) aerosol vs droplet. Why not instead of define each pathogen by relative importance of mitigation strategies? For instance, ventilation important
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11 May
An Open Letter to the Biden Administration and Congress from multiple public health/global health academic leaders in US on "Ensuring Global Health Security via Vaccine Donation" regarding humanitarian crisis in India
hividgm.ucsf.edu/ensuring-globa…
"Second year of the COVID-19 pandemic showcasing the stark inequity in global health security. The most advanced economies are entering a period of containment while the rest of the world is unable to respond or recover from the pandemic with relevant medical or economic tools"
"U.S. is on track to a summer of pre-pandemic levels of normalcy while South Asia and India in particular is reporting an estimated 1–2 million cases/day and 15,000-25,000 deaths/day. The pandemic will end when it ends for all.". Even with US vaccinating 12-15 yo, 70 million
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