The crucial issue is where, that is not a managed grouse moor, has there been an example, where culling Foxes and Crows, alone, resulted in a clear difference to Curlew breeding success?
I mean, it has been tried, so where has it worked?
At the very best @TonyJuniper is ecologically naive, and is being manipulated by grouse shooting interests, into believing that the breeding success of Curlews on grouse moors, can be replicated elsewhere, with predator control.
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I have provided a comprehensive explanation as to why it is false and naive to believe that the breeding successes of Curlews and other ground nesting waders, on managed grouse moors, can be replicated elsewhere, for a number of factors.
Part of the reason, this can't be replicated, as I explain, is because upland grouse moors naturally support far lower numbers of Crows and Foxes, as sheep are generally excluded from them, and there would be very little to support, their populations all year round.
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Can I briefly explain the ecological thinking error, in this thinking. You say, there are too many crows, Foxes and Badgers. Well what are you going to do about it. The ecologically ignorant, say, well cull them, and there will be far less.
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However, it doesn't work like this, populations of memo-predators like Foxes and Crows aren't determined by predation a.k.a. culling. Common sense reasoning has it, that if you kill ten thousand Crows or Foxes, then the population is going to be ten thousand less of them.
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The population density of say Foxes, isn't determined by how many get killed by humans. It is determined by territoriality and ecological carrying capacity. Most young Foxes don't live much past the first year, because they fail to establish a territory.
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The pollster who went to the Tory Press with these claims was a Tory Peer i.e. right wing. It is not clear who these Democracy Volunteers are, and what their political allegiances were.
However, it is clear that both this organization, was founded on the premise of "family voting" a conspiracy theory that Asian families coerce family members in how they vote, and Lord Hayward pushed the legislation.
I'm baffled by our media, not fit for purpose. They are still trying to spin this Trump/Netanyahu shit show, and normalize it, by pretending that their goals are somehow achievable. Probably to bolster the financial markets.
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How are these propagandists, going to spin it in a few months time, when Trump/Netanyahu, have achieved nothing, and the world is plunged into chaos? They should have been holding these 2 lunatics to account, to pressure them into ceasing and desisting.
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An even bigger enemy to humankind than lunatics like Trump/Netanyahu, is the media, who stopped reporting the news ages ago, and at the behest of their oligarch owners, turned into propagandists, gaslighting the public.
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A huge thanks to @ZackPolanski and the rest of the @TheGreenParty for restoring sanity and humanity, to British politics, and ignoring the received wisdom, that no politician or party can say positive things, or it is political suicide.
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As we can see now, and @ZackPolanski has exposed Keir Starmer for the fraud he is, in claiming that his nasty authoritarian, anti-people policy, was a political necessity. No it was a choice of Starmer, and the regressive forces he represents.
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@ZackPolanski has done a marvellous job in interviews on mainstream TV of being level-headed, in answering the attempts to trip him up, in an intelligent and persuasive way. I think the attacks and smears are backfiring, because people do not see what they are being told.
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