"Pollster Lord Hayward was reacting to a report issued by Democracy Volunteers, which claimed to observe high levels of ‘family voting’ the Gorton and Denton by-election"
I smell a rat. Lord Hayward is a Conservative politician.
"However, Manchester City Council, which is overseeing the by-election, was critical of the organisation for not raising concerns earlier during the day."
These "Democracy Volunteers", never said a thing, during polling. But a ssoon as polls closed they ran to the press.
I had never even heard of "family voting" before this report, and it is very clear that they are primarily referring to Asian families. See this below, to make it clear that this is what this is about.
I am very much hoping that Hannah Spencer and the @TheGreenParty triumph in Gorton and Denton, because @ZackPolanski has been a breath of fresh air in British politics. Even if they don't win, I believe this will change things.
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It is the first time in my life, that the leader of a party, which could change things, has been saying all the right things, and challenging the stale and disingenuous rhetoric, the media deigned necessary to win power. This is real leadership.
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The received wisdom, is that even if politicians are not anti-immigrant, that at least they should keep quiet about it. The same with drugs policy. The idea that harsh anti-drug laws and rhetoric, somehow protects people from harm, is ludicrous.
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I want to commend this post, because it is what I have been trying unsuccessfully to get across for decades. Up until the 1992 Rio Earth Summit, climate change had been treated, as only part of a much bigger ecological crisis. The big picture.
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The reason climate change was separated from the test of the ecological crisis, was it was wrongly thought that there would be a quick agreement, on phasing out fossil fuels, as had happened, with CFCs causing the hole in the ozone layer, at the Montreal Protocol in 1987.
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However, with hindsight, it has become clear, that plotting politicians only did this, at the behest of fossil fuel companies, to they could invent climate change denial, which never existed, in 1992, then to falsely claim that the only problem was climate change.
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The reason I am getting very frustrated about this, is that this is the single biggest danger facing humanity. That there is a complete failure to understand how no one has ever investigated how biodiversity and natural ecosystems, sustain our society.
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Everyone, including most senior scientists, just seem to assume:
1) That science, and experts understand how natural systems sustain our societies/civilization.
2) How stable and resilient our societies/civilization, will be to the collapse of these natural systems.
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This is because of an entirely false assumption, in modern Western culture, that our societies/civilization, somehow exist, independent of natural systems (biodiversity, ecosystems, the climate).
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Hi Caroline, I agree, if the report has been redacted, the full version should be made available. However, as I have been trying to explain to @GreenRupertRead the thinness of the report, is not really due to redaction, and anyone with insight, should know that this is as serious as it gets.
However, the real problem, is that there is absolutely no field of expertise here, no field of science, no institute studying this, no experts, that could tell you what this actually means for our societies/civilization.
I'm a graduate in scientific ecology, I have spent over 30 years investigating this, and trying to alert people to the fact, that there is no field of science, no institute, and no experts, who know what this actually means for our societies, because absolutely no one is studying.
Everyone, including scientists, wrongly assumes there are experts and research on this, but there are none. I have challenged leading scientists, to point to who is doing the research, and where, and none can tell me.
I am being so totally ignored on this, that I feel like giving up, and I have vastly more education and insight into this, than those ignoring me, and stonewalling me.
I will put a peer reviewed paper, in the tweet below, that absolutely proves, that absolutely no one is studying the threat to our civilization, which the climate and ecological crisis poses. Talk about denial. Well, just wait until you start starving to death, and remember I did warn you about it. threadreaderapp.com/thread/2018757…
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This should be the biggest story in the world today. If anyone states billions could starve to death, in the not so distant future, a lot of techno-optimist climate scientists will come along, and falsely accuse you of being alarmist, because there is no scientific evidence, that says climate change, poses this sort of risk to our societies.
Actually, they are right that there is no scientific evidence, the climate change could collapse our civilization. But that's because:
1) There's no research at all into the resilience of our societies/civilization, to climate/ecological shocks. So of course there's no science to support these concerns.
2) Secondly, the threat to us is from a combination of biodiversity and ecological collapse (which climate scientists are not qualified to comment on) and climate change. No one is researching the combined impact of both. There is no field of science that studies this.
Scientific ecology, only studies the interaction of populations of non-human organisms, with the natural environment, including climate change. It deliberately excludes humans, and human society. I know, because I'm a graduate in it.
The main reason this is not studied, is the complexity, which is many more magnitudes greater than anything else humanity studied. But just because it is complex, doesn't mean we should be ignoring it, as our lives depend on it, and there could be mass starvation in the near future, if we do not get real. pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pn…
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PS. - For crying out loud, will someone please respond to this, and stop ignoring what I am saying, just because it is too complex for you to understand. I don't mind people disagreeing with me, calling me an alarmist, if only they will support why they are saying this, with references and evidence. Stop the denial. We can avert catastrophe, if only we investigate this and acknowledge the problem.
I am not a doomer. I am saying we can avert catastrophe, if only we first investigate the situation, and it will be discovered that what I am saying is true. Secondly, upon this realization, we not only totally change our system, but abandon artificially induced competitive, induced for economic growth, and switch to a cooperative system, which would avoid total system collapse, as people would work together, not against each other.
I will not let anyone pretend that they are really concerned about the ecological and climate crisis, until they acknowledge this situation. Otherwise, you are just trying to look good.
As I say, if people dispute what I say, and try to claim I am wrong and don't know what I am talking about, support your point. But every time someone has tried in well over 30 years, I totally destroy their arguments, and they have to concede, that what I am saying is correct. But then they just go quiet, and don't want to discuss it.
"Flawed economic models mean climate crisis could crash global economy, experts warn"
@ProfSteveKeen has been pointing out the flaws in William Nordhaus fatally flawed DICE model for a very long time. They should now give that prize to Steve Keen.
I have been pointing out that the climate crisis will crash the global economy, for over 3 decades. However, I lacked @ProfSteveKeen economics expertise, to explain why, in economic terms. My analysis was derived from ecology and systems theory.
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It was only when I read @ProfSteveKeen systematic demolition of William Nordhaus' intellectually dishonest DICE model, that I realized why governments had been. misled to believe the impacts of climate change on our system, would be slight.
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