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@StevePeers
May 25, 2021 • 28 tweets • 10 min read • Read on X
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Remember this? When I debunked a viral FB post with crazy claims about EU law?

People often asked me who was the source of this stuff. Well...
...I haven't found out the source of *those particular* crazy claims. But thanks to @EmporersNewC I have some news about some *similar* crazy claims.
Last night someone tried to prove that FB post was correct by er, just quoting it again. But then she linked to the "eutruth" website. I followed the link and...
@EmporersNewC tipped me off to find the site via the wayback machine - web.archive.org/web/2021022404…
It's a long, incoherent rant, so I'll give you the highlights. The Queen should be executed for treason. With added Germanophobia.
There's no "corpus juris" in force. The EU didn't set up admiralty courts.

But note that obsession with medical regulation. That's what the playwrights call "the gun in the first act"...
No idea if those numbers are correct, but no EU law prohibits prosecution of police officers.
The Queen won't be hanged alone - she'll be joined by civil servants, MPs and PMs...
...and maybe 1000 lawyers too.
Well, *somebody* enjoyed reading that bit
The first of many, many mentions of Hitler. But also communism. Drink!
You may recall that we have, in fact, had further elections after 2010
Immigrants! Do you have fewer than 8 children? Better get busy!

Unfortunately this segues straight into rabid Islamophobia
I bring you surprising news about the referendum. And even more surprising news about Nigel Farage and Nick Griffin.
There was convoluted CJEU case law on Sunday trading, but that's not where it ended up. But there's no EU law on sex education or "obscene homework". Perhaps more teenagers would do their homework if there were.
The death penalty for treason was "secretly" abolished. By an Act of Parliament you can find online in seconds (as he's correctly cited it, surprisingly) - legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/…
There's more along these lines, but let's move on to the author of this screed. Unlike the author of the FB post, he put his name on it: David Noakes.
Surprise! He has a conspiracy theory about (((you guys))) too. Ngl, I was hoping for ((((space lasers)))) here...cst.org.uk/news/blog/2014…
Yup, he was a candidate for the UKIP leadership. Note the glowing character reference
Let's move on to his encounters with the courts. A tribunal ruling of sex discrimination - which brings us back to his approach to medical regulation...
outsourcing-pharma.com/Article/2015/1…
Ultimately resulting in a criminal conviction and custodial sentence for selling unlicensed medicine - a supposed "cure" for cancer, HIV and autism
bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur…
And a confiscation order for £1.3 million
bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur…
He also faced trial in France, and legged it on bail from a European Arrest Warrant - but was eventually found, and the EAW was executed during the withdrawal agreement transition period
bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur…
Leading to a recent conviction, and a further custodial sentence, in France
I don't know how many people, besides my discussant last night, fell for the "eutruth" website. But I know that loads of people fell for the FB post, which is only relatively less deranged. We are where we are.
Evidence of other people failing for the "eutruth" website, via @Jim_Cornelius
And several more falling for it -
A word from Siemens about (((that))) conspiracy theory
Looks like Noakes also has a link to the "UK Column" site, which reportedly does climate change denial (and perhaps covid stuff, in light of Ivor C) too -

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1/ Brexit law- proposal to negotiate a youth mobility treaty between the EU and the UK

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1/ Here's the Rwanda bill - my thread with the main points follows
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Aug 26, 2023
1/ I am seeing this being shared. A few points. Image
2/ The spiel in the link confuses the two EU courts, which is not impressive. In fact the applicants in this case lost earlier in the EU General Court, then lost their appeal this year to the CJEU. And this omits to point out that the CJEU had ruled on the substance in June 2022. Image
3/ My comments on the previous judgment: '.
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Aug 14, 2023
Profoundly ignorant on both points. A) the Good Friday Agreement requires compliance with the ECHR. That necessarily entails the Strasbourg Court. There's no legal route to saying that it applies but to the peace process only. 1/
2/ And the idea that it applies to the "peace process" but not "foreign nationals" is confused - for the obvious reason that some of those covered by the former ground may be Irish citizens.
3/ The Strasbourg Court jurisdiction is relevant to Northern Ireland for a very, very obvious reason: it had ruled that the UK had breached the ECHR in Northern Ireland after British courts had ruled that it had not. "Just rely on British courts" therefore misses the point.
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Jul 23, 2023
1/ I see "gotchas" assuming that this interpretation of the scope of EU external power is correct. It's not obvious that it is correct: labour migration is not the same thing as trade (apart from short term provision of services), so is not necessarily an EU exclusive competence.
2/ Nor is Schengen necessarily relevant here, as it applies to short term visits and the issue is longer term stays. There's limited EU harmonisation on non-EU labour migration, and both the Treaties and EU legislation have carve-outs on aspects of the topic.
3/ There's no current legal framework requiring Member States to get the Commission’s approval on labour migration treaties. So the Commission would have to sue Member States in the CJEU, and for the reasons just given it's not certain it would win.
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