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The fact @PeterSinger thinks the takeaway point of The Golden Ass by Apuleius is about "animal rights" is more proof that he's a eugenicist

Lets take a journey back to 2nd c CE Roman Greece in this brief thread about one of the earliest novels ever written (now w/ alt-text)
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The Golden Ass is a fun read filled with sex, drugs, magic, violence, and lots of (often sexist) comedy

Lucius is a young man interested in women and magic

He falls for a woman enslaved to a witch. They eat magic herbs, make love, and he is accidentally turned into a donkey
/2 An illuminated manuscript illustration of the marijuana plant
They thought the spell would turn him into a bird. Too bad, Lucius, you're an ass! Like the braying kind...

The only cure is to eat some fresh roses

So, Photis, his lover puts him in the stable for the night. The plan is for her to go find some roses the next morning
/3 Attic kantharos with a molded donkey head. Red clay with black glaze decoration
But... there's a plot twist

yes, even really early novels had crazy plot twists

That night, the house is robbed. The robbers grab all kinds of loot and load it up on Lucius the donkey to make their get-away
/4 Roman mosaic with a man holding a basket offered to a donkey who is turning his/her head away. Or, at least I think the donkey's head is turned away, it might be turned towards the basket. Sometimes it's tough to accurately describe ancient art!
The adventure now begins

Lucius gets to experience life as a donkey

He's abused, insulted, and othered. Sometimes in comic fashion other times in appalling fashion
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At first glance, maybe its a message about animal rights

Lucius is beaten like an ass. Repeatedly

He moves from job to job, bearing one load after another on his equine back, pulling a millstone round and round to grind grain in a Roman mill (like this one from Pompeii)
/6 A bakery at Pompeii  In the background is a brick oven that is surprisingly similar to modern pizza ovens. The fuel would go in the bottom and the bread in the upper area  In the foreground is a millstone shaped kind of like an hourglass. It's a coarse stone in order to grind grain. There is a rectangular hole in the millstone. Presumably a wooden beam would be placed in there in order to turn it round and round
But the fact is that Lucius' humanity is front & center

Like his centaur cousins, he also partakes in (usually sexual) hijinks that are oh-so human

After all, there's a human in that equine form. People started to recognize it and his fame grew
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PS: spoiler/bestiality ahead A comedic cartoon by Helen Forte of a "reverse centaur"  The legs (and butt) are human, while the neck up is a horse's head
By the final climax of the novel he is the donkey performing sex shows. A noblewoman pays an extravagant sum to sleep with him

His humanity emerges and he runs away to fall asleep on the beach
/8 Content warning: Ancient Roman marble statue of Pan fucking a goat. Sorry for the language, but that's what it is. It's from the Cabineto Secretto at the archaeological museum of Naples
He sleeps and wakes

His visions show him the Egyptian goddess, Isis. Her procession arrives and the priest gives him his crown of roses to eat

Lucius is now a man again, initiated into an important religion of the time

The story is one of religious salvation
/9 Ancient Roman statue of the goddess Isis
And, this is the problem with applying our anachronistic idea of "animal rights" to this story

The story is overtly one of humanity

As a donkey, he's ignored, and so he sees humans acting like they do when nobody's watching
/10 Another Attic clay drinking cup that has part of it molded into a 3d representation of a donkey's head
Lucius observes lovers cheating on one another (it's a running gag)

He witnesses the unrepentant greed of so many thieves and con artists

He sees so much violent abuse, some leveled on him, some leveled on his enslaved human companions
/11 another Roman mosaic with a donkey. This time a man is riding it, but the man is mounted backwards and holding a large drinking cup (drunk, I'd presume)
But the whole point is he's human!

In the end, he learns from his adventure. He has a religious experience and is saved

It's not a story about animal rights, it's a metaphor about humans (I know, it's shocking, early novels had metaphors, just like our modern ones)
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The fact that
@PeterSinger
published in
@AntigoneJournal
that The Golden Ass is about animal rights is a problem

Peter Singer has argued that it should be ethical and legal to kill disabled children with serious illnesses, after birth
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The philosophical argument to kill children is one that is based in dehumanization

According to this argument, a serious disability can make someone less than human so that normal human ethics don't apply
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Confusing Apuleius' Golden Ass as a story about animals instead of humans betrays a similar, biased logic

Singer admits in his piece, he'd never even heard of this novel a few years ago. And, then, bam he reads it as a story about animal rights and not human salvation...
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As a scholar who studies ancient animals, I can tell you that not too many donkeys had torrid affairs with noblewomen

Enslaved humans were abused and dragged millstones round and round in ancient Rome. Nothing in this novel should be read as about animals, but humans
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How we read and explain a story matters

Disabled people are and were people

Who @AntigoneJournal chooses to publish matters

They claim to make Classics accessible for all. But this article is inaccurate and excludes disabled people
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Plus, it just seems ironic to be so vociferous for animal rights and so casual about eliminating human rights from real people. After all, killing someone is certainly eliminating their human rights

This whole situation upsets and confuses me
BREAKING NEWS

George Orwell's Animal Farm is actually about animal rights!

C'mon @AntigoneJournal, this article is basically making the same argument! Book cover of George Orwell's Animal Farm. It shows human hands making shadows on the wall in the form of a pig
Thanks to the reminder of @debscavator, I've now re-written the thread to include alt-text

which is only fitting since one of the themes of the thread is disability, and I want my threads to be accessible to all
Another good point by @CBPolt

Lucius is shunned by fellow animals. His mistreatment is a metaphor for the mistreatment of people

Exactly what Singer's philosophy misses. He argues to treat animals well but to kill people

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No rational people think his ideas are plausible after seeing us

So the only response he had was to make it seem I lied. A ridiculous and cheap ploy
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The claim I lied is ridiculous for several reasons

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The Edfu Texts
1/8 drawing of the Ptolemaic period temple at Edfu
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There are many problems with this conclusion that he doesn't share
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They were carved over a century after Plato died

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If I conned him using published evidence, then he's admitting he doesn't know much about it
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Which is true. He admitted directly to Joe Rogan that there is "no evidence" for his proposed civilization

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I'm not sure why there's a need to continue, but I will anyway
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I am annoyed with the editors of Archaeological Prospection and the media and how it handles this Gunung Padang controversy

Nobody has gone and talked with local Indonesian archaeologists. None provide the correct date of the monument nor even stated it's not a pyramid
/1 photo of a terraced monument (Gunung Padang)
Misinformation and disinformation is successful because it fills up the internet with wrong information and overwhelms correct information

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I recently learned the teaching of ancient languages at Cardiff University (@cardiffuni @CUHistArchRel) is under threat: Latin, Ancient Greek, Hebrew & Sanskrit

SIGN AND SHARE this petition created by ancient history and archaeology students
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/2Photograph of the Main Building at Cardiff University with Welsh and ancient Greek inscriptions amidst Classical and Medieval sculpture
The students note, 'We should be working to bring these languages outside of private education to make them accessible to everyone who wishes to learn & expand their knowledge of the ancient world'

Instead these subjects are becoming less accessible
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/1 Screenshot from Ancient Apocalypse episode 1, “Once there
This thread will examine

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2)How Hancock’s narrative recycles 19th century ideas on #Atlantis
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Why trust me?

No idea. I’m just a dude who won’t pay for a checkmark

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Trust my credentials or don’t. But I’ll present real evidence why this show is crap
/3 photograph of me working on archaeological material from a S
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