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Jun 9, 2021 โ€ข 11 tweets โ€ข 5 min read โ€ข Read on X
Had a great conversation with @YoungInvestor03. What a kid, man.

Canโ€™t go to school, but continues to learn.

We have started unpacking Renergen Ltd together #DYOR

Letโ€™s check out some facts. ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿฝ

(Thread) ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿฝ
#DYOR Image
Renergen Ltd ($REN)

โ€ข 7 years young
โ€ข Negative earnings
โ€ข Negative cash flow
โ€ข Diluting shareholders

Yip, itโ€™s a negative for me.
Donโ€™t run away kicking and screaming just yet, like @YoungInvestor03 said to me, he has more time on his hands and he is willing to take on more risk.

Two things to consider here, are you:

โ€ขRisk averse
โ€ขRisk tolerant

*If youโ€™re risk averse, then this stock isnโ€™t for you
$REN
Letโ€™s unpack what we have learnt so far:

โ€ข Sales revenue has been dropping since 2018
โ€ข 26% decline in sales growth from the prior year.

Not looking pretty, whereโ€™s those accountants now?? Image
$REN

โ€ขNet income negative for 5 years (2017-2021)

In 2020 = NEGATIVE net income
(R52 million)

Average 5 year negative net income. (R191million)

Yes,
thatโ€™s shareholders getting diluted right there, or company must take on debt - probably both (double whammy) Image
Dilution or Debt

1. If I company is growing, itโ€™s natural for them to take on debt for expansion.

2. Or you can raise capital from share issuance

*Shareholders are diluted if the latter.

Yip, $REN shareholders are being diluted, you are funding the companies losses. Yay! Image
Type of investor?

Now, you may be saying SELL, SELL.
But hold on.... whereโ€™s your conviction? Or did you buy a meme stock?

If you buying meme stocks, you arenโ€™t an investor, you are a speculator.

Know what type of investor you are. Be honest with yourself.
Risk-reward ratio

More risk = more reward
Less risk = less reward

Do you believe in management to make it a success, or are you just hoping?

If you trust them, then you deserve to be rewarded in the long run- if they succeed. You could benefit greatly or you could go bust.
Capital Expenditure (Capex)

Follow the money

$REN has been operational since 2014.
So they need funding to grow, probably like what @MissNthabeleng is trying to do.

If you have conviction in the founders/managementโ€™s success then go for it. Those lessons are yours to learn
Management

Itโ€™s managementโ€™s responsibility to invest the capital prudently, they may fail, they may not.

Know this
โ€ข Managements t/record
โ€ข Insider capital
โ€ข Length employees tenure
โ€ข Pay scale
โ€ข Compensation

KeyTakeaway:
Know what your are investing in.
Thanks for making it to the end,

Weโ€™ll update you as we learn more @YoungInvestor03 has homework to do. Please feel free to give him companies to look at

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May 15
South Africa has over ๐—ฅ๐Ÿญ.๐Ÿฎ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—น๐—น๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—™๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป ๐—˜๐˜…๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€.

If you are wondering who manages those reserves, then this is the thread for you.

Find out ๐Ÿ”ป Image
*** What are Reserves ***

Think of Foreign Exchange Reserves as a country's emergency savings account, which is usually held in foreign currencies

Look at S.Aโ€™s below:

๐ŸŸกGold = $13.1 billion ( R243b )
๐Ÿ”ตForeign/C = $47.9b ( R889b )

That alone is R1.1 trillion in reserves Image
1/ Whatโ€™s the Purpose?

The central bank ( South African Reserve Bank (SARB) ) uses it to:

๐ŸŸ keep the economy stable
๐ŸŸ support the national currency

๐ŸŸ Settle imbalances in
international payments
(export & import)

๐ŸŸ Protect the country in the event of external shocks. Image
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Apr 9
๐—ง๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜€ ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฑ

In this thread, the basic candlestick patterns and charts will be taught.

๐—Ÿ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐— ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐Ÿ”ป Image
** ๐—š๐—น๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜† **

๐ŸŸขBull (ish) = Price is rising
๐Ÿ”ดBear (ish) = Price is falling

๐Ÿ“ˆResistance:
Price battles to move higher

๐Ÿ“‰Support:
Price holds at a certain level Image
** ๐—–๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜ ๐—ง๐˜†๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐˜€ **

๐ŸŸ Candlestick
๐ŸŸ Line
๐ŸŸ Bar

There are more, but these 3 are common.

Weโ€™ll be ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—น๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐˜€ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ, as it is the most important and the easiest one to trade. Image
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Mar 3
Dividends Explained

๐ŸŸข ๐—”๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜€
๐Ÿ”ด ๐——๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜€

Time to learn ๐Ÿ”ป Image
๐Ÿญ/ ๐——๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€

Dividends are payments made by a company to its shareholders.

When you invest into a company (own equity) you become a shareholder of that company and then have a claim on future cashflows. Image
The net profits from the respective company youโ€™ve invested in can be:

(๐Ÿญ) ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€
(๐Ÿฎ) ๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฒ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ถ๐˜๐˜† ๐—ต๐—ผ๐—น๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€
(๐Ÿฏ) ๐—•๐—ผ๐˜๐—ต (๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ + ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ)

The retention and amount of distributions are dependent on what the board of directors decide.

โ€”โ€”โ€”

๐—™๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐——๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€

Dividends can be paid in two forms, depending on what is decided:

(1) Paid in cash
(2) Additional Shares, known as a stock dividend

This is the way for a company to share its profits, and can be seen as a sign of financial stability.Image
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Feb 7
๐—š๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ ๐—•๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€ ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

Let me explain the difference between RSA Retail Savings Bonds and tradable South African bonds.

๐—™๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜ ๐Ÿ”ป Image
** Glossary **

๐—•๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ:

A bond is a debt security. You can think of it as an I-O-U.

You lend money to someone, and then they promise to pay that money back to you + interest.

๐— ๐—ฎ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†:

Refers to the date on which the bond issuer (debtor) pays back everything they owe to bondholders ( creditor ).Image
1/ Introduction

When it comes to bonds there are two markets one can opt to participate in:

๐ŸŸ  The Primary Market
๐ŸŸ  The Secondary Market

The primary market is where you ๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜† ๐—ถ๐˜ ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—น๐˜† ๐—ณ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜ but then cannot sell it to someone else because there is no secondary market for it.

*So the price of the bond cannot fall.

๐—ง๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ต๐˜† ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ:

๐ŸŸขNo fees
๐ŸŸขNo commission
๐ŸŸขNo Risk
๐ŸŸขGuaranteed returns

โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”โ€”

๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—น ๐—ฆ๐—ฎ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด๐˜€ ๐—•๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜€ ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐˜ and this is what makes them different from tradable government bonds.

๐—ข๐—ฝ๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜,

Tradable government bonds have a secondary market where they can be traded or held to maturity.

This means you can sell it when you want to, but it also means you can potentially lose money if the bond price has fallen lower than your original purchase price.

With tradable government bonds, you are ๐˜€๐˜‚๐—ฏ๐—ท๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ธ.Image
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May 9, 2024
๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—–๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ณ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜

This is the part where many of us get confused when reading financial statements.

But not anymore๐Ÿ”ป Image
*** Catch up ***

Here is a basic understanding of the three most common financial statements.

Start with this thread before continuing ๐Ÿ”ป
1/ The Cashflow Statement

Is an important tool used to manage the finances of a business by tracking the cash flow of an organization.

Itโ€™s divided into 3 Parts:

โ–ช๏ธOperating activities
โ–ช๏ธInvesting activities
โ–ช๏ธFinancing activities Image
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May 5, 2024
๐—™๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€ ๐—˜๐˜…๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ

โ–ช๏ธCashflow Statement
โ–ช๏ธIncome Statement
โ–ช๏ธBalance Sheet

Beginners guide ๐Ÿ”ป Image
1/ ๐—œ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป

๐—”๐—ฐ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ป๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด records information related to a businessโ€™s transactions,

It provides a summary of statements reflecting the financial performance of an entity. Think of it as the ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ด๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ณ ๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€.

Letโ€™s take a look ๐Ÿ”ป
2/ ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—–๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ณ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜

The Cashflow statement shows:

โ–ช๏ธSources
(where money came from)

โ–ช๏ธUses
(how the money was used)

It ๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ธ๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ต ๐—บ๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€ of a business (Money in, and money out) Image
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