Glenn when it can be blamed on someone he doesn't like (a lib): OH MY GOD! THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST ORWELLIAN GOVERMENT SPYING IN HISTORY. ABUSE OF PRIVACY THE LIKES WE'VE NEVER SEEN!
Glenn when it's Trump & the targets are someone he hates: The government obtained their data.
tl;dr- they deserved it bc they were mean to Trump (who I do not support)
This is the closest he gets to anything even vaguely resembling a condemnation of Trump.
"An investigation is certainly warranted to determine the propriety of these subpoenas." lol
Just your typical 'lets pump the brakes and wait for the facts' GG reaction.
"These hypocrites got what's coming to them. Well deserved. Oh and maybe it was bad...idk, time will tell."
Update: I forgot to include my best piece of whataboutism- what about that time Adam Schiff publicly subpoenaed Rudy Giuliani and found out Devin Nunes was talking to the head of the conspiracy. Where was your outrage then, huh?
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People ask, 'how could voters believe Dems have positions that they don't actually believe?' Well it's because the GOP bombarded them with lies about Dems and there's just not a great answer for such weaponized shamelessness. Truth just does not work.
The GOP (and its wealthy financial backers) have basically weaponized disinformation/lies to a completely unprecedent degree. And with the rise of technology are able to pump it out completely unchallenged (especially since social media outlets have completely given up).
So the NYT politics guys did a Reddit AMA several days ago. This was the top upvoted post. And then the extremely predictable (point proving) response.
And the predictably smug/condescending follow-up
Needless to say, they were heavily down-voted and deluged with (acurate) negative comments like these
#factcheck: Hamas is not keeping the hostages to rape them, they are just raping the hostages they are keeping for unrelated other reasons.
What....is even going on anymore?
I just don't understand why certain people feel the need to downplay Hamas' awfulness. It's not that hard to say that Hamas is an evil terrorist group, while also believing that innocent people do not deserve to die because of it.
Again, contra the lame "oh so you blindly trust the US govt" line from the above uhh journalists, the actual things to weigh:
Side 1- Israeli govt, US govt, every open-source analyst on this site & most importantly, the fact that the hospital was not destroyed
Side 2- Hamas' word
So yeah, I guess it's a real he-said, she-said if you just ignore everything but the competing government claims & also only pretend that the USG/Israel's 'lies' matter and not the fact that the initial claims by Hamas of the hospital being destroyed & 500-1000 dead, were a lie.
A lot of people I respect really, really showed their asses. And if they want to be able to maintain any sort of 'high ground' when it comes to journalistic integrity, really should at least make a basic statement that they got out over their skis.
And of course a lot of people who I don't really respect, but I don't expect them to ever admit they were wrong. Because that's just not what people do #onhere.
I'm not slightly 'gloating'. This entire site & almost all of the media falsely/uncritically ran with a characterization that relied solely on Hamas' word and created a major international incident. Sorry, if you don't think that deserves to be called out.