A timeline thread of the interactions between @EmilyArtful and #creepshowart based on her recent video and the #lolcow leaks.
@EmilyArtful But first a few disclaimers: this thread is biased towards @EmilyArtful, it's only based on the video "creepshow art has ALWAYS been this way" () and the lolcow thread, this assumes that the lolcow allegations against creepshow are indeed shannon herself,
I note the parts of the timeline that I'm unsure of with a ?
The parts of the timeline that start with "lolcow" are the "lolcow" posts alleged to be shannon. If you want to use this timeline please credit me. May add corrections later as well.
The parts of the timeline that start with "lolcow" are the "lolcow" posts alleged to be shannon. If you want to use this timeline please credit me. May add corrections later as well.
TW: R*pe, revenge p*rn, stalking, abuse, eating disorders, cp, drug abuse, threats/guns, harassment, cyberbullying, bullying
2004-2006
Emily made first facebook account as a minor (she was 12-14 years old)
2006
Emily started(?) struggling with addiction and drug abuse.
Emily made first facebook account as a minor (she was 12-14 years old)
2006
Emily started(?) struggling with addiction and drug abuse.
2010-2012
Emily was a gig musician at Nickel City, San Jose,California. Anthony and Shannon worked here too. Emily started dating Anthony Parker. It was a toxic and codependent relationship. Anthony (Ant) broke up with Emily (Em) due to toxic jealousy.
Emily was a gig musician at Nickel City, San Jose,California. Anthony and Shannon worked here too. Emily started dating Anthony Parker. It was a toxic and codependent relationship. Anthony (Ant) broke up with Emily (Em) due to toxic jealousy.
Ant's best friend "Brandon" called Emily and threatened her and made her feel uncomfortable.
Em and Ant stopped talking for a while and then became friends again/went into a "flirtationship".
Em and Ant stopped talking for a while and then became friends again/went into a "flirtationship".
From at least nov. 2011, Em had alternate social media accounts (minecraft, music, art (not emily artful account), etc...)
2012-2013
Em entered into professional relationship with Ant and helped him make music video "Stardust" (now privated). Original song had other female vocalist. Em made negative comment about this person's voice. Em's voice was used instead. Original vocalist was Shannon.
Em entered into professional relationship with Ant and helped him make music video "Stardust" (now privated). Original song had other female vocalist. Em made negative comment about this person's voice. Em's voice was used instead. Original vocalist was Shannon.
Em started noticing an increased volume in negative comments on her youtube channels/social medias, as well as increased facebook friend requests.
Em was phished and had her fb account hacked from an unknown login with IP address leading to Ant.
Em asked phisher to give it back due to explicit content found on that account (CP). Phisher insults her.
Em asked phisher to give it back due to explicit content found on that account (CP). Phisher insults her.
Em had been in an abusive relationship with someone who forced her to take camgirl videos. Phisher found these videos and along with CP put them in photobucket account that he used to taunt her with. Phisher also sent photoshopped nudes that mocked her body in order to trigger ED
an email like "whydoihavetodothis22?44?@gmail.com" sent email that said "idk why i have to do this but I do"
Em went to police but was turned away because "phisher/stalker/harasser had not said anything endangering her life"
This stalker had been anthony (and possibly Shannon)
Em went to police but was turned away because "phisher/stalker/harasser had not said anything endangering her life"
This stalker had been anthony (and possibly Shannon)
August 30, 2013
Em was on the verge of suicide. Made an email draft begging fb to allow her to recover account. harrassment was 24/7. She was too scared (for her life) to send email.
Oct. 27, 2013
Em sent email to Anthony with subject "Ayla's Universe". They were working tgt.
Em was on the verge of suicide. Made an email draft begging fb to allow her to recover account. harrassment was 24/7. She was too scared (for her life) to send email.
Oct. 27, 2013
Em sent email to Anthony with subject "Ayla's Universe". They were working tgt.
email draft to fb had anthony's ip address, she didn't know it was him at the time. stalker threatened to leak CP and P if Em did anything.
Negative social media comments trying to trigger Em's private ED. Includes transphobic comments similar to Shannon's lolcow posts.
Negative social media comments trying to trigger Em's private ED. Includes transphobic comments similar to Shannon's lolcow posts.
2013-2014
Em started getting sober and got a regular job as receptionist at optical shop. Got fired because Ant/Shannon (Shan) (Both = shant) sent email with Em's CP and P. Em became homeless and suicidal.
Em met someone, moved in and got restaurant job in different location.
Em started getting sober and got a regular job as receptionist at optical shop. Got fired because Ant/Shannon (Shan) (Both = shant) sent email with Em's CP and P. Em became homeless and suicidal.
Em met someone, moved in and got restaurant job in different location.
Em's friend had fb account copied by Shant, added Em and tried to figure out where Em was working. Em blocked them and told friend who got fake account reported and taken down.
Em had side gig as makeup artist. Lost big client due to false negative review (most likely from Ant)
Em had side gig as makeup artist. Lost big client due to false negative review (most likely from Ant)
Em found job outside of San José, CA, and stopped posting online
2015
Shanon and anthony started being homeless by choice (#vanlife)
Shanon and anthony started being homeless by choice (#vanlife)
2014/2015
Em officially sober without relapse. Done lots of therapy, healing and improving herself.
Jan 22, 2016
Started "Emily Artful" youtube channel with first video "Sketchbook Storytime | stuck in a blizzard PT1| self portrait"
Passion project. Built nurturing community.
Em officially sober without relapse. Done lots of therapy, healing and improving herself.
Jan 22, 2016
Started "Emily Artful" youtube channel with first video "Sketchbook Storytime | stuck in a blizzard PT1| self portrait"
Passion project. Built nurturing community.
Em was intoxicated/incoherent due to heroin. Anthony climbed through window and raped her.
April 4, 2016
"Creepshow Art" Youtube channel created by Shannon.
Negative stalker comments started appearing again. Em knew she had a stalker but didn't know who.
At this time? Em received comment that said Em had "forced another girls boyfriend to cheat on her" (r*pe)
"Creepshow Art" Youtube channel created by Shannon.
Negative stalker comments started appearing again. Em knew she had a stalker but didn't know who.
At this time? Em received comment that said Em had "forced another girls boyfriend to cheat on her" (r*pe)
2017
Em consulted with lawyer and started gathering receipts
Tracked ip address of one of the sockpuppet accounts (sp accounts) to a library.
March 24, 2017
Rupaul's Drag Race Season 9 (starring Aja) started airing on TV.
Shannon loves RDR.
Em consulted with lawyer and started gathering receipts
Tracked ip address of one of the sockpuppet accounts (sp accounts) to a library.
March 24, 2017
Rupaul's Drag Race Season 9 (starring Aja) started airing on TV.
Shannon loves RDR.
September-october 2017
Em's yt video "You Are Not An Artist" got 200,000 views. Social blade screenshot showed gradual climb.
Em's yt video "You Are Not An Artist" got 200,000 views. Social blade screenshot showed gradual climb.
Oct 12, 2017
Em posted on twitter about this video doing well.
Oct 20, 2017
Em tweeted that this video had gone "mini-viral"
Oct 21, 2017
Ant started following Em's twitter (5 years since they've had contact). Accused Em of buying views. Em blocked Ant on other social media.
Em posted on twitter about this video doing well.
Oct 20, 2017
Em tweeted that this video had gone "mini-viral"
Oct 21, 2017
Ant started following Em's twitter (5 years since they've had contact). Accused Em of buying views. Em blocked Ant on other social media.
Ant tweeted that Em was "a blocker and a meaning"
Em blocked Ant on twitter.
(few minutes later) Em gets twitter DM from @notviral_Emily "Aja" accusing Em of buying views. Nobody else other than Ant was accusing her of this.
Em blocked Ant on twitter.
(few minutes later) Em gets twitter DM from @notviral_Emily "Aja" accusing Em of buying views. Nobody else other than Ant was accusing her of this.
@notviral_Emily Em unblocked Ant on twitter, told him to stop harassing her. Em now believes it was Shannon who responded (due to typography) with "I figured maybe if I get more ridiculous, I'd get a response"
-admitting to wanting to hurt Em
-admitting to wanting to hurt Em
Em took this to mean that if she didn't do what Shant wanted, they'd do more and more extreme (potentially violent) things.
Late 2017
Shannon and Anthony stopped doing #vanlife and went to live in an area in Oregon. Emily knew where they lived due to mutual friends. Emily sets up IP trap for @notviral_Emily that led her to their house. At this point she realized they phished her fb too.
Shannon and Anthony stopped doing #vanlife and went to live in an area in Oregon. Emily knew where they lived due to mutual friends. Emily sets up IP trap for @notviral_Emily that led her to their house. At this point she realized they phished her fb too.
Em hires a private investigator (PI), a lawyer and goes to the police. Lawyer advised her to not take it to court as it's hard to prove sock puppet accounts and it's lengthy and expensive. (Laws have not caught up with tech/social media)
Em ran out of money. She was pregnant(?)
Em ran out of money. She was pregnant(?)
Em's first son "Bini" is born [(based on her video "My Kids and Art (Yes, I actually have kids!)]
March 20, 2018
Shannon uploads first video to her youtube channel "Creepshow Art"
2018 was also when Em started getting comments (from SP accounts) on her youtube that compared her to Creepshow- positive and negative.
Shannon uploads first video to her youtube channel "Creepshow Art"
2018 was also when Em started getting comments (from SP accounts) on her youtube that compared her to Creepshow- positive and negative.
March 22, 2018
Twitter SP account named Briana Lang sends DM to Em saying her pfp looks like she's wearing a hijab.
Twitter SP account named Briana Lang sends DM to Em saying her pfp looks like she's wearing a hijab.
April 2, 2018
Creepshow/Shannon uploads "Flashing Strangers at a Gym" where she talks about living in a car, using library as living space, and saying she deleted all her negative emails/comments. (vid seems to now be deleted/privated)
Em still didn't know who creepshow was
Creepshow/Shannon uploads "Flashing Strangers at a Gym" where she talks about living in a car, using library as living space, and saying she deleted all her negative emails/comments. (vid seems to now be deleted/privated)
Em still didn't know who creepshow was
July 1, 2018
Em has first DM convo with Creepshow on instagram. Sent Shannon polite request to not copy her "Sketchbook storytime". Em added Creepshow on instagram. Em finally sees and responds to twitter Brianna Lang account about "hijab" message.
Em has first DM convo with Creepshow on instagram. Sent Shannon polite request to not copy her "Sketchbook storytime". Em added Creepshow on instagram. Em finally sees and responds to twitter Brianna Lang account about "hijab" message.
July 13, 2018
Briana Lang twitter account told Em about Creepshow copying her, egging her on in order to get reaction. "Briana" wasn't successful.
Briana Lang twitter account told Em about Creepshow copying her, egging her on in order to get reaction. "Briana" wasn't successful.
July 19, 2018
@filter_britta (prob deleted twitter) DM'd Em saying/confirming very specific, nonpublic info about Em getting fired, harassed, and having her followers DM'd with false information- including "proof" that emily was buying subscribers. Also references @notviral_Emily
@filter_britta (prob deleted twitter) DM'd Em saying/confirming very specific, nonpublic info about Em getting fired, harassed, and having her followers DM'd with false information- including "proof" that emily was buying subscribers. Also references @notviral_Emily
@filter_britta @notviral_Emily This SP account added info like keeping list of employers, having explicit bathtub videos of Em, and text documentation bragging about getting Em fired. Alleges this was Britta Filters 15 year old brother who started harassing Em at 10 years old apparently.
Em asked for evidence that this has all been caused by a 15 year old child. Britta filter refuses to provide this. Emily calls them out and she knows this is Anthony (still didn't know about Shannon)
October? 2018
Creepshow Art posts a sketch on instagram that looks like Ant. She tags ant. Em sees this and realizes who Shan is and that she's dating Ant. Still wasn't sure if Shannon was in on stalking. Em unfollowed Shannon.
Creepshow Art posts a sketch on instagram that looks like Ant. She tags ant. Em sees this and realizes who Shan is and that she's dating Ant. Still wasn't sure if Shannon was in on stalking. Em unfollowed Shannon.
Em had her instagram DM's closed at this point due to internet harassment
Late? 2018 (12:53 pm)
"Kilgore Trout" sends a snapchat pic of a business called "Loft" that was in Em's city (with incoherent text on the pic). "Kilgore" first poses as a minor (breadcrumbs). Emily "tends and befriends" as survival mechanism.
"Kilgore Trout" sends a snapchat pic of a business called "Loft" that was in Em's city (with incoherent text on the pic). "Kilgore" first poses as a minor (breadcrumbs). Emily "tends and befriends" as survival mechanism.
"Kilgore trout" sends snap that says "the valiant taste of death but once. Cowards fear it many times". Clearly meant to scare/taunt Em. Em asks if he's near the loft. He confirms- thus confirming he's in the same city as Em.
Evidence that this was Ant
-he calls himself Anthony
-doesn't deny that he's dating Shannon, or that he's obsessed with/stalking Em and plays music.
-he calls himself Anthony
-doesn't deny that he's dating Shannon, or that he's obsessed with/stalking Em and plays music.
Em takes screenshots. Snapchat informs Ant about this. Ant is now aware that Em is gathering evidence. Ant also knows that Em knows that he's dating Shannon aka #creepshowart.
October 24, 2018
Em uploads (now privated) yt vid called "My PROBLEM with a BIG YOUTUBER". One SP account named Lily Singh made these comments;
"the emily artful clone is creepshow art”
"I feel likek it creepshoart"
"it’s creepshow art. More like crapshowart"
Em uploads (now privated) yt vid called "My PROBLEM with a BIG YOUTUBER". One SP account named Lily Singh made these comments;
"the emily artful clone is creepshow art”
"I feel likek it creepshoart"
"it’s creepshow art. More like crapshowart"
Em sets up IP trap and tracks IP to Shant's home. Takes screenshots of the IP and later compares it to lolcow IP address. Same address.
At this point is starting to suspect shannon as well due to typography (typing style)
At this point is starting to suspect shannon as well due to typography (typing style)
October 26, 2018
Creepshow posts IG (instagram) story responding to (her own) comments alleging that "big youtuber" in Em's video is Creepshow. Creepshow denies that she's the "Big Youtuber" mentioned in Em's video.
Creepshow posts IG (instagram) story responding to (her own) comments alleging that "big youtuber" in Em's video is Creepshow. Creepshow denies that she's the "Big Youtuber" mentioned in Em's video.
Creepshow's first mention of being harassed for 12 years by the girl who catfished her who also got her fired from her jobs. Em didn't see this story right away.
Creepshow DM'd Emily on IG.
Creepshow DM'd Emily on IG.
Creepshow says there's a "girl on IG/YT and Twitter who is just relentless (with insinuating that the "Big Youtuber" in Em's video is Creepshow)". Then Creepshow love bombs Em.
Em took this to be Creepshows "warning" that if Em were to come out with receipts, she'd seem like she was just copying CreepshowArt. Setting Em up to seem like she was the stalker and not the other way around.
November 31, 2018
Em confronts Shannon in IG dm's about stalking. Shan was aware of Ant's false claims of Em buying views, mentions having incriminating videos of Em, and chalking Ant's disturbing behaviour as "trollish sense of humour" and "randomness".
Em confronts Shannon in IG dm's about stalking. Shan was aware of Ant's false claims of Em buying views, mentions having incriminating videos of Em, and chalking Ant's disturbing behaviour as "trollish sense of humour" and "randomness".
Shan also mentions britta filter account, saying Em "wronged them". She also admitted that Ant knew about the harassment, and found the incriminating photos to be "funny".
"We don't have time to obsess over you and your really cute family" (Em doesn't post about her fam often)
"We don't have time to obsess over you and your really cute family" (Em doesn't post about her fam often)
Shan included oddly specific info that she's been harassed for 12 years, had been a cam girl with photoshopped nudes. Shannon says this made her suicidal. (They knew that Em had been driven to brink of suicide). Shan also mentions the music collaborations.
Em says she will file restraining order against Shant. Shan pins it on "brandon". Then confirms that she had been "homeless" with Ant. Says her stalker "Amy" had admitted to stalking her. Shan gives PO Box address, then mentions Brandon's name was on there too.
Em chose not to write the restraining order. After this, the stalking behaviour/threats/taunts went away. Interestingly, this is when Shannon/#creepshowart starts spreading rumours/hate about Em on lolcow.
Dec 2, 2018
Lolcow (LC): "wanna talk about emily artful? She full on has gone to small channels and told them not to do storytimes because they are her thing and her brand."
Dec 3, 2018
LC: "emily deletes a lot of her videos, but someone is reuploading them"
Lolcow (LC): "wanna talk about emily artful? She full on has gone to small channels and told them not to do storytimes because they are her thing and her brand."
Dec 3, 2018
LC: "emily deletes a lot of her videos, but someone is reuploading them"
December 4, 2018
LC: “ok emily”
December 6, 2018
LC: “Have you guys seen Emily’s shitty jewelry and charms? Like do people actually buy these?”
LC: “ok emily”
December 6, 2018
LC: “Have you guys seen Emily’s shitty jewelry and charms? Like do people actually buy these?”
2019
Em got twitter dm from @xd_datboi (most likely deleted account). Em had mentioned that datboi was her favourite meme previously.
@xd_datboi sent threats to Em and her children, called her derogatory names like druggie.
Em got twitter dm from @xd_datboi (most likely deleted account). Em had mentioned that datboi was her favourite meme previously.
@xd_datboi sent threats to Em and her children, called her derogatory names like druggie.
@xd_datboi Jan 11, 2019
Creepshow art posts video “I was STALKED for 8+ Years | Storytime” (despite saying she was stalked for 12 years to Emily and on ig story)
Creepshow art posts video “I was STALKED for 8+ Years | Storytime” (despite saying she was stalked for 12 years to Emily and on ig story)
@xd_datboi Jan 8, 2019
LC: [in response to an LC user commending emily for turning her life around after abusing drugs] “No, the camgirling came after she got clean. She was on heroin for a very short while, after that short while, she was on YouTube under the name emily sugarfruit........
LC: [in response to an LC user commending emily for turning her life around after abusing drugs] “No, the camgirling came after she got clean. She was on heroin for a very short while, after that short while, she was on YouTube under the name emily sugarfruit........
@xd_datboi ...I know this because I was a fan of that channel and if you find her deviant art at the time, she talks about how she has recently just gotten clean and sober.
As emily sugarfruit, she reviews anime, dances in a bikini, and did a whole video naked in a bathtub...
As emily sugarfruit, she reviews anime, dances in a bikini, and did a whole video naked in a bathtub...
@xd_datboi ...and did a whole video naked in a bathtub. She also wrote an entire comic based off of one piece so she could fuck the main character.
Not to mention bully Other female reviewers and tell them they weren’t hot enough to be as popular as she was.
That was what she did on heroin.
Not to mention bully Other female reviewers and tell them they weren’t hot enough to be as popular as she was.
That was what she did on heroin.
@xd_datboi ...She then got clean, started to be a cam girl and then started doing storytimes, which she said she created and now gets mad at any other youtuber who tries.
She is a cow who likes to pretend she’s better than everyone and has her shit together.”
This wasn't public info.
She is a cow who likes to pretend she’s better than everyone and has her shit together.”
This wasn't public info.
Jan 16, 2019
Lolcow: “I feel like we neglect Emily on here a lot and she’s so milky”
Jan 18, 2019
Lolcow: “God dammit. Emily keeps doing paid sponsorships and has full on stopped giving a fuck”
Lolcow: “I feel like we neglect Emily on here a lot and she’s so milky”
Jan 18, 2019
Lolcow: “God dammit. Emily keeps doing paid sponsorships and has full on stopped giving a fuck”
Feb 9, 2019
LC : “[...] She hates more other youtubers but really had it out for Emily artful and creepshow Art. Said she sent fake screenshots on a fake account to creepshow so she would think emily was talking shit, didn’t realize that emily and creepshow know each other...
LC : “[...] She hates more other youtubers but really had it out for Emily artful and creepshow Art. Said she sent fake screenshots on a fake account to creepshow so she would think emily was talking shit, didn’t realize that emily and creepshow know each other...
...and freaked out when creepshow called her out behind the scenes. [...]”
Feb 11, 2019
LC: “Emily artful for sure lurks. She literally freaks out on Twitter about LC and mean comments then deletes them.”
March 18, 2019
LC: “Ok emily. We get u want to post this. No one cares”
Feb 11, 2019
LC: “Emily artful for sure lurks. She literally freaks out on Twitter about LC and mean comments then deletes them.”
March 18, 2019
LC: “Ok emily. We get u want to post this. No one cares”
June 28, 2019
Emily Artful posts on twitter that she was sick with an infection.
July 20, 2019
Emily Artful uploads a youtube video called “These Past Two Months… (“ANIMATED”)” where she talks about being burnt out.
-SP comments about how she’s a terrible mother/neglectful
Emily Artful posts on twitter that she was sick with an infection.
July 20, 2019
Emily Artful uploads a youtube video called “These Past Two Months… (“ANIMATED”)” where she talks about being burnt out.
-SP comments about how she’s a terrible mother/neglectful
July 22, 2019
Lolcow: “She traced this. This is literally traced from an Emily artful sketch”
Lolcow: “She traced this. This is literally traced from an Emily artful sketch”
August 10, 2019
Lolcow: “has any one posted about emily artfuls past of being an "antifeminist anime loving im not like other girls" girl? here she is essentially trying to impress a bunch of neck beards while they talk about anime girls they want to have sex with”
Lolcow: “has any one posted about emily artfuls past of being an "antifeminist anime loving im not like other girls" girl? here she is essentially trying to impress a bunch of neck beards while they talk about anime girls they want to have sex with”
August 16, 2019
Emily uploads youtube video called “Creator Burnout | Why It Occurs and Hot to Avoid It” and then posts the link on twitter
SP comments about how she’s a terrible mother/neglectful
Emily uploads youtube video called “Creator Burnout | Why It Occurs and Hot to Avoid It” and then posts the link on twitter
SP comments about how she’s a terrible mother/neglectful
August 18, 2019
LC: “emilyartful uploaded 2 videos trying to explain her absence, when in reality she left because her views are terrible. before she left, she was tweeted and deleting about how bad her views were, becuase no one wants a podcast of her talking with other artists
LC: “emilyartful uploaded 2 videos trying to explain her absence, when in reality she left because her views are terrible. before she left, she was tweeted and deleting about how bad her views were, becuase no one wants a podcast of her talking with other artists
...people want fake storytimes from her, and thats it. that's why none of her other content breaks 100k.
so she makes a video saying she almost killed her child 2 times because she got him sick, then when no one cared, pretended it was creator burn out.”
Em says these are lies.
so she makes a video saying she almost killed her child 2 times because she got him sick, then when no one cared, pretended it was creator burn out.”
Em says these are lies.
October 8, 2019
Lolcow: “someone posted about emilys old minecraft channel in her comments and it's just as bad as she is now”
January 23, 2020
Brita Filter was announced as one of the contestants of RuPauls Drag Race Season 12.
Lolcow: “someone posted about emilys old minecraft channel in her comments and it's just as bad as she is now”
January 23, 2020
Brita Filter was announced as one of the contestants of RuPauls Drag Race Season 12.
Aug 5, 2020
Anthony uploads yt video called “how I still wrote music while living out of a car (homeless)” (now privated)
-talks about prepping for #vanlife, and the expensive equipment he bought for art projects
Anthony uploads yt video called “how I still wrote music while living out of a car (homeless)” (now privated)
-talks about prepping for #vanlife, and the expensive equipment he bought for art projects
-also talks about content creators who have "become sell-outs". Em thinks he was thinking about her when he said these things because he uses similar language to when he was threatening/stalking Em's house several years ago.
He also talks about working for hours in a library basically all day. Same library that the ip address was traced to.
February 11, 2021
Lolcow:“She's talking about Emily. Emily has two kids and made one of the biggest videos on Holly.”
June 2, 2021
Lolcow exposes Shannon’s posts
Lolcow:“She's talking about Emily. Emily has two kids and made one of the biggest videos on Holly.”
June 2, 2021
Lolcow exposes Shannon’s posts
June 10, 2021
Britta Filter twitter account sent a DM to Em at 7:08 pm
-said there’s a channel compiling Em's videos
(basically saying they will release Em's problematic takes if Em comes out with her video against Shant)
Britta Filter twitter account sent a DM to Em at 7:08 pm
-said there’s a channel compiling Em's videos
(basically saying they will release Em's problematic takes if Em comes out with her video against Shant)
June 12, 2021
Emily Artful uploaded “Creepshow art has ALWAYS been this way”.
Lots of bots/SP showed up during the premier in defence of Shannon. Huge flooding of them during the time when Em was talking about her rape.
Emily Artful uploaded “Creepshow art has ALWAYS been this way”.
Lots of bots/SP showed up during the premier in defence of Shannon. Huge flooding of them during the time when Em was talking about her rape.
The only way they could be more obvious is if Shannon and Anthony wrote "we're stalking Em" on their foreheads. If you don't see this after this thread, idk what will convince you.
*meanie
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