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Jun 15, 2021 23 tweets 11 min read Read on X
On those who participated in the survey on the clinical case definition - Patient AND Researcher is a new category (requested by @Dr2NisreenAlwan and yours truly) :)

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The parts of the clinical case definition that have reached consensus:

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@Dr2NisreenAlwan up first! Doctors need to do better and avoid generating stigma. She shares excellent data showing that those without lab confirmation don't get enough time off or adequate rest, resulting in worsened #LongCOVID as measured by ability to care for themself 4/
@BrodinPetter talks about #LongCOVID in children and three possible explanations: persistent virus, autoimmunity, or an autoinflammatory response 5/
Dr. Anna Funk: few differences between pos and negative-tested child patients w/r/t number of symptoms 6/
Dr. Jonigk and Dr. Ackermann on vascular injury. There are ongoing vascular alterations and endothelial dysfunction! 7/
Missed 2 talks but @VirusesImmunity is up next!

Three hypotheses for #LongCOVID:
1. Viral reservoir (would not be picked up by PCR)
2. Autoreactive lymphocytes
3. Tissue damage, including in vascular

(Not mutually exclusive!) 8/
@VirusesImmunity There is evidence for all of these hypotheses. Here is a screenshot showing that in 5 of 14 patients, COVID antigens were found in intestinal tissue.

She and her colleagues have looked at autoantibodies in severe patients but are expanding to #LongCOVID 9/
@VirusesImmunity Major point! Patients with autoantibodies to B cells had reduced B cell number and function.

"[Moderate] patients failed to mount an antibody response....not only do autoantibodies interfere with B cells, but they also interfere with their function." 10/
@VirusesImmunity Vaccines can both improve & worsen #LongCOVID patients & this could be a clue to the pathophysiology.

By the way, this study (which @patientled gave the patient perspective on) is still recruiting for non-vaccinated Long COVID patients within driving distance of New Haven! 11/
We're in the working groups now (I'm in the pathophysiology one).

Exciting comment from Dr. Nancy Klimas @ngklimas:

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Sooooooo excited to hear Dr. Jarred Younger here on neuroinflammation AND neuroimaging techniques.

Microglia activation causes an inflammatory state. He is talking about several neuro markers including elevated lactate in the brain and elevated brain temperature!

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The treatment goal would be getting microglia back into calm state.

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Phew, wrapping up. Now on to the working group summaries.

Care models working group:
-they make the very important point that even though #LongCOVID is more probable in hospitalized patients, the vast majority and count of LC patients are non-hospitalized

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Care Models working group:
-Services must be driven by patient-led perspectives
-need advocates to listen to listen to lived experiencee
-can't rely on physiological normal parameters (my side note - we haven't even figured out tests yet)

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-post infectious diseases/research, which are historically underfunded, need to be paid attention
-overwhelmingly a huge need especially in non-hospitalized patients
-urgent need for an acceptable level of holistic care
-need upskilling (medical provider ed) & bundled care

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-access to care pathways is vital especially to not exacerbate inequalities
-pathways need to be complex (multiple specialities, bundling services together)

#LongCOVID

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-Many non-hospitalized patients weren't admitted to hospitals because of hospital capacity alone and we shouldn't be calling all non-hospitalized patients "mild"

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Pathophysiology working group:

-not sure we are any closer to pathophysiology, but many possible theories (including many not listed here, like neuroinflammation etc)

I missed a few slides here but will revisit when the recording is out

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Wrapping up from WHO's Mike Ryan:

In the US 18-49 year olds are the largest symptomatic group. With 91 million symptomatic cases - even a rare condition with these numbers is common. We need a societal approach to this.

[14% of 91 million is 13million people w' #LongCOVID]

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"There is a decay curve in society's concern. Sometimes people are made to feel like they should shut up & move on. We owe it to the people who are suffering to give them the best science possible. There is a danger in the moment like this that people stop talking about this" 22/
we need to keep this conversation going and keep it going in public, with policymakers.

We can't leave anyone behind. It's not just about vaccines, it's about leaving nobody behind FOREVER. And that takes a commitment."

#LongCOVID

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More from @ahandvanish

May 1
From the Conference of Retroviruses & Opportunistic Infections: persistence of Covid in megakaryocytes in #LongCovid.

Over my head, but my understanding: megakaryocytes (type of bone marrow cell) being infected = continuous infection, very serious!

1/ croiconference.org/wp-content/upl…
graph showing levels of circulating Megakaryocytes; very low for healthy controls, high for severe Covid and Long Covid
This could cause additional impacts like deficits in platelet energy metabolism, or hormonal dysregulation (because platelets carry serotonin) #LongCovid

More about this here from the amazing @polybioRF!

2/polybio.org/projects/sars-…
The study found:

-circulating megakaryocytes harbored Spike, SARS-CoV-2 ssRNA, & dsRNA in #LongCovid patients

-these produced platelets containing Spike & SARS-CoV-2 ssRNA 3/
Read 5 tweets
Oct 30, 2023
Because this video has caused so much willful misinterpretation, I want to clarify: in the clip I’m countering the myth that #longcovid is lingering symptoms of acute COVID, since many people think it’s just a cough. I should‘ve said “acute COVID”; brain fogged & trying my best.
The interview was an hour long & they edited it to 5 min. I talked their ear off about all hypotheses & the science behind each & it didn’t make it in - the piece was for a general audience. I talked about all the other things COVID can cause, include diabetes & clots, at length.
Anyone who is suggesting I don’t think #longcovid is from COVID (????) or that I don’t think viral persistence is a high priority hypothesis (????) are *actively* ignoring 3.5 yrs of advocacy & that I’ve been highlighting viral persistence since 2020
Read 7 tweets
Sep 20, 2023
The most exciting hypotheses in #LongCovid and #pwME are ones that could have cures! This includes viral persistence and others, and also includes the itaconate shunt hypothesis. I'm going to tweet this video as I watch it to try to explain it more 1/
Dr. Ron Davis used to work on the Human Genome Project but switched to ME/CFS when his son got sick. He's the director at the Stanford Genome Center. He is focused on *a cure* for ME/CFS. "I believe it is a curable disease." 2/ slide that says "ME/CFS - A curable disease?"
He describes the common onsets of ME - usually viral, but can have other causes too, refers to a big parasite onset in Norway from a few years ago 3/ Image
Read 13 tweets
Sep 11, 2023
FDA Stakeholder meeting on #LongCovid today:

@TheCrankyQueer: highlight the need for trans inclusion in trials, including understanding how different labs may present; biomarker nuance

Oved Amitay: need to create a center of excellence to learn from trials in other diseases 1/
Oved: FDA needs to align on decisions across similar fields, needs cross-talk across similar groups

@Dysautonomia: Most even great researchers don't understand autonomic disorders, which happen in up to 2/3 of LC...is there an opportunity to offer autonomic training? 2/
@Dysautonomia: Also, need to make arms in these trials for pre-Covid POTS/MECFS - this helps learn about LC as well (ie does Paxlovid help pre-covid pts)

Me: There are over 50 drugs ready to be trialed: 3/docs.google.com/document/d/1JJ…
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Jul 27, 2023
A beautiful piece by @edyong209 that fully describes & communicates the complexity of fatigue & Post-Exertional Malaise in #LongCovid.

Ironically am crashy today so going to pull out amazing quotes:

"Now, at least, she can watch TV on the same day she takes a shower." 1/
"Fatigue turns the most mundane of tasks into an “agonizing cost-benefit analysis,” @turnoftheshrew said. If you do laundry, how long will you need to rest to later make a meal? If you drink water, will you be able to reach the toilet?"

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"Only a quarter of long-haulers have symptoms that severely limit their daily activities, but even those with “moderate” cases are profoundly limited. @julialmv still works, but washing her hair, she told me, leaves her as exhausted as the long-distance runs she used to do." 3/
Read 33 tweets
Jul 13, 2023
This is one of the most accurate papers on #LongCovid recovery I've seen. It's full of crucial points:

-Only 7.6% recovered.

-Recovery was *more* likely in people who were in the ICU. This was something we saw early, but why?

A few thoughts:

1/ https://t.co/kdPhkTVR5mpapers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cf…
Those hospitalized with COVID, esp in the early pandemic, seem more likely to have forms of #LongCovid that are *not* the neurological form.

The neuro form seems to last longer (& often overlaps with ME/CFS & dysautonomia, lifelong conditions).



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Other factors that correlated with INCREASED likelihood to recover from #LongCovid include:

-being male
-having cardiovascular comorbidities
-lost appetite in acute phase
-had smell/taste alterations (this is often its own subtype that can come with no other symptoms)

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