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Wanted to explain concept of CONTROL vs ELIMINATION (& eradication) with an infectious diseases, why getting immunity up in a population can get us to control, & why living with a controlled infectious diseases is very manageable (and no longer problem of the public just ID MDs)
Even though we tried to control COVID with other strategies (masks, distancing, ventilation, testing, contact tracing), true control of a pathogen achieved when a significant proportion of the population becomes immune. Never this degree of testing done for a pathogen before.
In 1918 influenza pandemic, masks, distancing, closures employed but there was no vaccine developed for influenza until 1942. So, instead the pandemic came to an end through terrible loss of human life, 50 maybe up to 100 million dead, 5% of world's population.
But since vaccines developed, infectious diseases could be controlled. 4 concepts in ID epidemiology- control vs elimination vs eradication vs extinction. Control takes vaccines, medications, contact isolation or other public health interventions
pedaids.org/2015/02/18/hiv…
to bring infections down to manageable level and MOST importantly, ensure that few become sick or die from the disease. That is where we are getting in US, UK, Canada and other countries with mass vaccination: numbers of hospitalizations/deaths decreasing massively. Infections
- at least asymptomatic infections or having virus in nose- were tracked to prevent spread to others, but weren't a sign of infirmity as by definition, they were asymptomatic. So, continuing to screen those who are asymptomatic after vaccination given unlikely to spread is not
good use of public health resources (and not endorsed by CDC, I try to explain here). So, is the virus getting to control in countries with access to vaccines and mass vaccination? Yes, it is by traditional ID definitions. Okay so what about ELIMINATION
ELIMINATION means stopping the transmission of a disease in a specific geographic area or country (not worldwide). Dr. Fauci said to WaPo on May 22 when cases dipped below 30K that we want to get to "level that isn’t a public health hazard
"washingtonpost.com/health/coronav…
that doesn’t disrupt society". The reason we are aiming for control but not elimination is that some of the public health restrictions we have employed in the name of elimination (closing schools, businesses, etc.) are extremely disruptive to society & enact collateral damage. So
what does control look like? Control looks like measles in the US which is not a problem of the public but a problem of ID MDs and public health practitioners. Outbreaks occur in pockets of unvaccinated people or when unvax'd traveler brings from abroad.
cdc.gov/measles/cases-…
And of course we do not test routinely for measles so are only aware of a measles case when someone presents for medical care with typical symptoms. That is where we will get with COVID - will test people with symptoms & identify outbreaks as population immunity rises. In Israel
there are 26 people with COVID in the hospital (out of 729 cases, we won't know about asymptomatic cases in future when not testing like this with control) & near zero deaths. So, this is a small "outbreak" in a place still vaccinating. US and UK still vaccinating too. Between
immunity from natural infection + immunity from vaccination, community immunity gets so high that there will only be small outbreaks that will be well-managed with medication (which is why developing outpatient antivirals so important) and ring vaccination. Places opening in US
at less than 70% 1st dose vax rate and cases not surging because combination of natural immunity + vax. Places like San Francisco with such high levels of vaccination (plus some natural immunity) exhibiting control. Control is our goal with COVID; doubt elimination possible &
restrictions damaging. And eradication - which means worldwide elimination- has only been achieved with smallpox (declared eradicated by the WHO in 1980. To be made "extinct", remaining vials of live variola (smallpox) virus would have to be destroyed
passporthealthusa.com/2019/10/why-do…
Who will decide on control vs elimination for a country? Likely political leaders not CDC or NIH or their equivalent Elimination would be nice but may be too high a price on society; Control allows outbreaks to be managed by MDs (which is why antivirals & ring vax important)

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HOW LONG DOES IMMUNITY LAST? To COVID vaccines or infection? We do not really know but there have been some really nice papers lately that give us more information. Please remember immunity divided into antibodies (which can come down & not work as well against variants)
IgA is one in the nose & mouth ("mucosa") that is raised by shots (vaccines) to certain extent but rise higher after natural infection; IgG is the one that is "humoral" or in the bloodstream. Many threads on here about cellular-mediated immunity: B & T cells cover all variants
This recent preprint is really important and summarized by @florian_krammer below in depth. Main take-aways: Breakthrough infections induce IgA (we knew) but protection from vaccine long-lasting even against former variants to severe disease/mortality
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RSV VACCINE FOR OLDER ADULTS: Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) respiratory virus (most common after flu pre-COVID). 2 subtypes, A&B (1 dominates/season). Droplet; Recurrent infections. Most severe in neonates & adults >65; FDA approves 1st RSV vax today
msn.com/en-us/news/us/…
RSV vaccine 3 trials of new RSV vaccine, all published in the @NEJM recently so just to keep them straight- here is the vaccine which just got approved May 3 by the FDA for older adults. Remember our T/B cells so protection against severe disease higher!
nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…
A single dose of the RSVPreF3 OA vaccine had an acceptable safety profile and prevented RSV-related severe respiratory illness by 94% in adults>=60 years (71% against RSV infection, likely to fall with time as antibodies fall but severe disease protection will remain)
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NASAL VACCINES: To explain nasal vaccines, we have to explain the immune system first.
IgA is an antibody that helps attack the pathogen and exists in mucosal surfaces (like nose/mouth)
IgG is an antibody that is in the bloodstream
bbc.com/news/world-asi…
Cellular immunity is fantastic, redundant (so even if one cell line down in immunocompromised, have other), generated by either vaccine or infection; Comprised of
T cells- so in breadth from vax - works even across spike protein with its mutations
And the 2nd type of cell produced by vaccines or infection -B cell- amazing thing about B cells is that - if see omicron or one of its subvariants in future- they make antibodies adapted to that variant or subvariant (aided by T cells); adaptive immunity
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Mar 15, 2023
PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY: Seem to be at reckoning phase of COVID response- what worked, what didn't. Which interventions will be used in future pandemic responses? Interventions asked of public need good medical evidence for them (e.g. RCTs preferably, systematic reviews) to impose
In our field, Cochrane reviews represent best way to sum up the medical evidence to date by performing meta-analyses or systemic reviews of currently-available data; here is Cochrane on masks & other interventions for respiratory viruses including COVID
cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.10…
Many asked past 3 years how CDC developed policies on masks (& age to mask), distancing (feet), ventilation, schools-> all non-pharmaceutical interventions. Originally theory-based. Now 3 years in, have data (RCTs highest level) to form policies from both US and other countries
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Mar 6, 2023
VACCINE DISCRIMINATION: We need to stop vaccine requirements for US entry like almost every other country. Am finishing COVID chapter for our ID "bible" & vaccines prevented transmission early on with alpha, but not enough now with current variants to justify such discrimination
Moreover, shame, stigma, blame (remember COVIDiots?), coercion, discrimination not good public health tools. When used for HIV, public health & ID physicians decried them but tactics used a lot in COVID. This book tries to explore & correct that for future
barnesandnoble.com/w/endemic-moni…
Concept of #harmreduction in pandemic responses means watching carefully if vulnerable people (like students, older people, low-income populations, migrants, sex workers, prisoners, those with disabilities, refugees, minorities) harmed more by response
nature.com/articles/s4146…
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FEAR: Some media & public health officials concerned Americans aren't fearful of COVID now. But the vaccines & therapeutics DO WORK. If we can't celebrate biomedical advances & imbibe their effectiveness (we have better tools for COVID than flu), what is point of developing?
In HIV medicine, when therapies came out, we didn't say to people- stay fearful; make this the controlling principle of your life. The book #Endemic I wrote (coming out July 11, 2023) hails these biomedical advances & the age we are in to fight pandemics to reassure the world
This is a rather brilliant summary of the issue from @benryanwriter
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