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SARS-CoV-2 lab conspiracy theorists are again misrepresenting scientific fields they have not bothered to try to understand.

This time they're applying their paranoid distortions to immunology. So that deserves a thread.



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When SARS-CoV-2 infects a person, the person's immune system increases production of proteins known as antibodies that bind to SARS-CoV-2.

So if SARS-CoV-2 escaped from the WIV by infecting staff, then that would show up in antibody tests.

Yet...
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Conspiracists don't like that result, so they abuse an antibody study I discussed awhile back.

That study estimates ~4% of Wuhan had increased antibody levels; i.e. ~4% seroprevalence, so ~4% of people previously infected.



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Conspiracists use that ~4% to estimate the probability that none of the WIV staff would have increased antibody levels.

They say the probability is low, so the WIV results are untrustworthy.





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The conspiracist's analysis is incompetent. But that's typical of lab conspiracists, especially those linked to DRASTIC.

For example, the WIV testing is for March 2020. Yet the Wuhan-wide ~4% is mid-April 2020, when there would be more infected.

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SARS-CoV-2 infections often happen in clusters, such as infections among those living together or at indoor events.

So infection risk is not equal for everyone, especially if you're not linked to a cluster.



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The Wuhan-wide study shows infection risk varies with various factors.

Laboratory workers would presumably spend more of their work day in conditions that lower infection risk, unlike, for instance, store employees exposed to infected people

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Infection rates vary by location, even in populations that don't have more procedures + equipment preventing them from being infected (ex: outpatients).

Makes it more unsurprising that infection rate could be lower among lab workers tied to 1 site

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Also note that the conspiracists assume its ~600 people who tested negative for antibody increases. Unclear where they're getting this from.

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So we have a bunch of paranoid non-experts running a shoddy calculation that doesn't take into account things like time-frame, infection clustering, infection-preventing behavior, location, etc.

And they criticize the WHO team with this. 🙄

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Looks like a major source of a lot of this misinformation was Steven Quay.

Again. 🤦‍♂️

Why is any sensible person still taking him seriously on the topic of COVID-19?



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@hausfath Within the uncertainty range of IPCC 1990 First Assessment Report's 1990-2025 projection.

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"predicted rise from 1990 (to 2030) of 0.7–1.5 °C with a best estimate of 1.1 °C"
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@hausfath 1990-2025 warming trend is ~0.25°C/decade.

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Implies ~0.9°C of global warming for 1990-2025, i.e. close to the projected average value of 1°C.

48:40 - 55:02 :
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The red arrow is 1990:
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@hausfath Still end up with ~0.25°C/decade when starting in 1995 to avoid cooling from the 1991 Mt. Pinatubo eruption.

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Dr. Anthony Fauci complained about death threats to him, his family, public health experts + staff, etc.

This thread will cover some of the rhetoric that may have contributed to that, along with surrounding context.

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Fauci is not alone in receiving threats.

For example, there's Dr. Nicole Kleinstreuer:

"Death threats to NIH official spark debate over aggressive campaign to end animal research"
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Threats sometimes lead to physical harm.

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The most secure position in science is one that's both:

1) supported by an evidence-based scientific consensus
2) disputed by Matt Ridley [@mattwridley]

This thread will provide some examples.

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Ridley shows how one can get away with being wrong on topic after topic, as long one states the paranoid ideological narrative many conspiracy theorists want to hear.

Others made this point, such as Dave Farina.

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So on to the secure positions that are:
1) supported by an evidence-based scientific consensus
2) disputed by Matt Ridley [@mattwridley]

There's an ongoing multidecadal global warming trend of ~0.3°C/decade.

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@curryja If it's anything like Steven Koonin's 2014 op-ed in WSJ, then it's filled with ideologically-motivated misinformation and denialism.

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@curryja About 30% more warming occurred during the first quarter of the 21st century than during the last quarter of the 20th century.

Models did fine.

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Ryan Maue:
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Matches the ~0.3°C/decade projection Ridley attributed to climate models

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