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Jun 30, 2021 13 tweets 5 min read Read on X
In a lawsuit that claims a teacher was so offended by a student's failure to recite the pledge, or write down its words as part of an assignment that he began to mistreat the student, it's a bit rich for a judge to write that "folks are just so easily offended these days"
The teacher gave a long, weird speech about communism and sharia law and sex offenders.
Then, the student says he was just sort of consistently a jerk to her, and when she complained, he played a bunch of weird Christian music in class and stared at her.

And he kept doing this stuff even though the administrators were asking him not to.
On appeal, the teacher argued that the student had no constitutional right not to write out the words of the Pledge of Allegiance, and that he had a right to be a jerk to her for making that choice, since it was unprotected.
When the District Court said that, under Barnette, it was clearly established that the student could choose not to pledge allegiance either orally or in writing, the teacher appealed and asked the appeals court to make different factual findings. No dice.
And a little ridiculous, the majority opinion notes, for the dissent to fret about people taking offense to Dr. Seuss when this case is squarely about whether schools can force students to swear allegiance.
The dissent basically disagrees with the trial court's conclusion that there was some evidence the teacher forced students to write out the words of the pledge of allegiance in a set time period as an oath of loyalty.
Honestly, it's hard for me to think of what educational goal is achieved by forcing the students to write the Pledge of Allegiance. Hard for the dissent, too.

But he drills down hard on the distinction between writing a pledge and saying it.
This "cute" aside about the Day of the Dead not being a zombie movie probably should have been left in drafts.
But basically, the argument is because Pledge cases have always been oral, not clearly established for written assignments. Honestly qualified immunity is a terrible enough doctrine that I could see some judges buying this argument.
Finally, the judge suggests that he has read one sentence of the I Have a Dream Speech, and it is the same as the others.

But presumably, if children had to pledge allegiance to Martin Luther King, he'd see the problem.
Long story short, I think the judge could make the argument that qualified immunity precludes this suit solely because of the written/oral distinction.

But I think he could have easily done it without auditioning to be the next Judge Ho.
But I think the contrary argument, that this written assignment is effectively a pledge, deals with a finding of fact. What was the teacher's intent? How would a student interpret it?

And there's enough here for a jury to hear this case.

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May 31
People keep saying these charges never would have been brought against anyone else.

That's dumb.

If you become a national news story over something that is arguably criminal, there is a very good chance you will be charged. No matter who you are.
Like, remember that subnormal dude who slapped his kid at a restaurant last week?

Very good odds that he ends up catching a charge or a child services investigation. Not because of his politics but because he is in the public eye.
Do people who buy guns despite having used drugs in the past routinely get charged?

Fuck no. It's super rare.

BUT IF YOU WRITE A MEMOIR ABOUT YOUR DRUG USE that a bunch of people read, yes, you can catch a charge.
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People often mess up hearsay but the rule is easy.

1. Out of court statement

That means any statement made by someone who is not in the witness chair

It also means statements by the witness that were made before they got to court.
2. For the truth of the matter asserted.

In other words, do you give a shit if the dude is lying?

If I said I am the world's greatest lawyer, you can't bring that in to argue that it's true.

But you can bring it in to show I'm delusional.
The big non hearsay purposes
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1. Effect on hearer.

Your wife says there is a rat in the garage. You need to explain why you went to the garage. Even if she's lying, it still explains why you did it
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May 10
Thrilled to report that my client, Meagan Dwyer, prevailed in her anti-SLAPP motion today against Stephanie Britt, a Savannah cheerleading fixture who claimed that Dwyer had gotten her kicked out of a cheerleading association (the USASF) by reporting misconduct around children. Image
There were many problems with Britt's lawsuit, starting with the fact that it did not specify what Dwyer had said, explain how it was untrue, or establish that it led to Britt being kicked out of the USASF.

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Britt claimed that it was unfair for her to have to specify what Dwyer had said about her, and that she should be permitted to learn if anything untrue had been said in discovery, a ruinously expensive process.

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If you are ever arrested, the two biggest things you can do to help yourself:

1. Be polite and reasonable with the officer. If he responds by acting like a jerk, that just helps you more when a jury looks at the video.

2. Politely decline to answer questions.
I have seen so many cases where a cop has a borderline arrest, and a judge takes his demeanor into account. A super nice officer who chit chats with the defendant while he waits for backup wins suppression motions.

A guy who enjoys being a jerk often doesn't.
Later down the line, the officer may be asked if he's cool with the State cutting you a break, and it's so helpful to have him on board.
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Georgia has passed a law forbidding bail funds from contributing to people's bonds.

It is worth noting that when MLK was bailed out of Birminghan jail, he didn't fund his own bond. The United Auto Workers, and others, pooled tens of thousands of dollars to liberate him.
This law is squarely aimed at punishing people accused of relatively minor crimes of civil disobedience, like blocking a street, or trespassing at a department store lunch counter.

Punishing people before trial is an effective way to avoid having to give them a trial.
The State's problem is not that these people are violating their bonds. Or that they are failing to appear for court. You could address that with a bench warrant.

Georgia simply does not want to give people a trial before punishing them.

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