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May 3rd, Age 763: after 130 days spent idling around Capsule Corp, the Namekians’ dragon balls revive. Kuririn’s spirit is returned to Earth and resurrected, but Goku opts out of a free ride home, so that he can continue training with Pybara. #HistoryofEver
With one wish still free, Bulma resurrects Yamcha. Now they can live happily ever after! Another full (Namekian) year later on September 10th, Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu are revived, and the Namekians depart for a new vaguely Namek-y planet. Now they can live happily ever after!
It’s not all good news in 763 though: sometime during this year, a time machine arrives from an alternate timeline, and a big cicada monster crawls out and burrows underground. Around this same time, Kami starts feeling real uneasy, but he can’t quite put his finger on why…
The wishing logistics are spelled out by the narrator in the manga, while in the anime we get to see it happening. Notably, the significance of the 130 day recharge period is unexplained in the manga, with the anime adding that it’s the length of a Namekian year.
Speaking of logistics, if you’re wondering how all the Namekians can hang out at Capsule Corp, keep in mind that there was only about 100 of them (even fewer now, since Tsuno’s village wasn’t revived). Obviously the late Great Elder was big on family planning.
Another detail that’s easy to forget: all of the Namekians on Namek at this time are the Great Elder’s children (Dende notes that he’s the 108th). Not grandchildren/descendants/etc, but direct offspring. So Muri, Nail, and Dende are all brothers.
Precisely why this should be is never addressed. Apparently it’s just their custom for only the Great Elder to lay eggs, ant queen style. Which means presumably Muri takes on this duty now as new Great Elder, unless he decides to let others have a crack at it.
In the manga, Ginyu is never seen again after he hops off in his new frog form. The anime adds filler of him briefly switching bodies with Bulma, then later getting zapped to Earth along with everyone else, where he settles down…a thread the DBS anime picks up on
While investigating Cell’s time machine, Trunks says that it arrived four years ago, a year before he first came to warn everyone about the androids. Kami notes how he’s been feeling uneasy these last four years, but naturally he didn’t bother to tell anyone about it until now.
Trunks wonders if Cell’s arrival is what caused the timeline to diverge so much from the history he knew…though frankly it’s hard to see how Cell sitting around underground would lead to 16’s presence (for instance). But more on this later, I suppose.
Cell says the time machine was preset to arrive in this time. Piccolo guesses that Trunks wanted to come tell everyone he had defeated the androids. Even if that’s true…why come a full year before his initial warning? Seems like that would lead to a rather awkward conversation.
(Viz has Piccolo say “three years ago”, when of course it should be four. In Japanese he just vaguely says この時代/“this era”. But there’s reason for Viz’s confusion, namely…)
Another loose end: Cell says his development underground takes three years, so why did he only come out now? Seems like it would’ve been easier to nab 17+18 while they’re still at Gero’s lab. Unless Gero only completed them in 767?
(Based on Piccolo’s question, it does seem like Toriyama maybe forgot Cell game 4 years ago rather than 3. Yep, we really are entering into a troublesome phase of the series, timeline-wise. Oh well.)
The dates for the wishing sessions are from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline, and come from adding 130 days twice-over to December 24th, the date it gives Namek’s destruction. The timeline dates Cell’s arrive to “sometime in Age 763”, but places it after the Garlic Jr stuff in October
On Tuesday: bad moon rising!
Thanks as always to @Terez27 for making the clips

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According to Bunshun Online, Dragon Room head honcho Akio Iyoku has stepped down from Shueisha and established his own company, Capsule Corporation Tokyo. Supposedly he wants Shueisha to keep DB’s manga publishing rights but for CC Tokyo to handle DB games/anime/etc.
As you might imagine, Shueisha is reluctant to part with DB to any extent, and negotiations are still ongoing. According to this article, anyway. Shueisha has apparently confirmed that Iyoku is stepping down, but not confirmed any of the particulars so far.
Bunshun Online reached out to Toriyama and asked if he would be working with Iyoku in future, but Toriyama said he couldn’t comment publicly, only through Shueisha. He also said the company name “Capsule Corporation Tokyo” was Iyoku’s idea, not his own.
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Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai ep.41: Pissed Myst’s great and the logistics of Dai’s sword are interesting, while the castle’s just there to be knocked down. But it knocks down well. 4/5 #DragonQuest #ep41
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Jul 25, 2021
Rewatching the DBS panel, there’s a few things I want to note about the subtitles. They’re fine overall but there’s a few things I think are oversimplified or left out. Going through roughly in order of importance…
When discussing the artwork for New Character 1 and 2, in Japanese Hayashida says how it’s Toriyama’s original artwork, unlike the Piccolo/Pan/etc images that have been developed into full-fledged anime designs. The subtitles instead say it was made before movie production began ImageImageImage
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May 15th, Age 767: after three days of rest, Goku recovers from his heart disease (a week earlier than Trunks expected). The situation may be dire, but Goku knows the perfect place where Vegeta and Trunks can finally spend some quality father/son time together... #HistoryofEver
Speaking of quality time, Goku and Chi Chi get a nice moment together in the anime, sharing a kiss far too hot to actually show on screen. Or include in the canon, for that matter.
Alright, so…in the original manga, Goku and Chi Chi are never shown kissing. In DBZ ep.147 they share an offscreen kiss (they later made a figurine based on this). In the DBS anime and manga, Goku claims never to have kissed his wife. Draw your own conclusions.
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May 12th, Age 767 (Bad Future Edition): at 10 AM on an island 9km southwest of South City, 17 and 18 begin their assault. Vegeta and co are mowed down, leaving Gohan sole survivor. Even the dragon balls are no use, since Pilaf and co wasted them on a dumb wish. #HistoryofEver
May 12th, Age 767 (Better Future Edition): 19 and 20 appear on schedule, but Our Heroes are ready. Well, Goku gets a bit sick, but Vegeta covers for him. While 19 and 20 don’t last long, 17 and 18 make short work of the gang. And that’s just the beginning of their problems…
Yes, it’s another busy day. May 12th has the honor of being one of the few specific dates mentioned in the series, although the year 767 comes from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline. If there’s any number pun significance to this date, I haven’t been able to find it.
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