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October, Age 763: the planet Makyo swings by Earth for the first time in 5,000 years. Naturally this makes those on Earth of Makyo descent a gazillion times stronger, thus allowing Garlic Jr to break out of the movies and invade the main series. #HistoryofEver
There’s worldwide chaos as Junior and co turn Earth’s population into demons, but it’s all cleaned up in time to celebrate Sea Turtle’s 1,000th birthday. This might also be Hit’s 1,000th birthday for all we know. Nobody can prove otherwise.
The narrator says the Garlic Junior arc is ~10 months after the events on Namek, which sounds oddly specific until you remember all the post-Namek wishing lasted 260 days total (130 days x2). That’s a little under 9 months, so “10 months after Namek”=“1 month after the wishing” ImageImage
Since the Daizenshuu timeline puts the Namek arc in December of 762, by extension it pegs the Garlic Junior arc as in October of 763. It also includes Makyo’s last visit 5,000 years ago, Kami/Garlic’s rivalry 300 years ago, and the events of Dead Zone in 761. They love Garlic! Image
Without getting into a long and tedious canon debate, I think the Daizenshuu timeline includes all this Garlic Junior stuff mainly because the movie/filler already conveniently specifies so many dates, thus making it low-hanging fruit when trying to fill out a timeline.
The Garlic Junior arc introduces Maron, not to be confused with Marron. Both names are taken straight from marron, the French word for “chestnut”, making them a match for Kuririn, who’s named after 栗/kuri, the Japanese word for chestnut. ImageImage
So far as we know, Toriyama wasn’t involved in (filler girlfriend) Maron’s creation, and shows no recognition that the name was used before when asked about (canon daughter) Marron’s name pun in the guide DB Landmark. Apparently it’s just a coincidence. ImageImage
From an in-universe perspective, Maron’s existence makes it look like Kuririn named his daughter after his ex, but again, this wasn’t the intention of Toriyama or the anime staff. It’s just that a marron-based pun was the obvious choice for a character connected to Kuririn.
As you may know, Kuririn’s name is spelt “Krillin” in the Funi English dub, giving some the false impression he’s named after krill. And “marron” just so happens to be the name of another type of crustacean, thus preserving this alternate name pun theme: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marron Image
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It’s already November 20th in Japan, which means Dragon Ball has officially reached its 40th anniversary. In case you weren’t paying attention and/or born at the time, here are some highlights from the first 40 years of DB history… #DragonBall40th Image
1984: gag manga superstar Akira Toriyama concludes megahit Dr. Slump, and in November debuts its follow-up in Weekly Jump. This Journey to the West-inspired kung-fu adventure kicks off as inventor girl Bulma recruits monkey boy Goku to track down the titular dragon balls. Image
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1985: after last year’s tail-end teaser, things begin in earnest. The initial “quest for the dragon balls” arc wraps up in May, and Toriyama shifts gears to a tournament arc (always a fan favorite in his Dr. Slump days) with the lecherous Roshi and Goku’s new cueball-esque BFF. Image
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Aug 31, 2023
According to Bunshun Online, Dragon Room head honcho Akio Iyoku has stepped down from Shueisha and established his own company, Capsule Corporation Tokyo. Supposedly he wants Shueisha to keep DB’s manga publishing rights but for CC Tokyo to handle DB games/anime/etc.
As you might imagine, Shueisha is reluctant to part with DB to any extent, and negotiations are still ongoing. According to this article, anyway. Shueisha has apparently confirmed that Iyoku is stepping down, but not confirmed any of the particulars so far.
Bunshun Online reached out to Toriyama and asked if he would be working with Iyoku in future, but Toriyama said he couldn’t comment publicly, only through Shueisha. He also said the company name “Capsule Corporation Tokyo” was Iyoku’s idea, not his own.
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Jul 26, 2021
Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai ep.41: Pissed Myst’s great and the logistics of Dai’s sword are interesting, while the castle’s just there to be knocked down. But it knocks down well. 4/5 #DragonQuest #ep41
What was the name of this episode again?
Even under torture, Popp’s still Popp
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Jul 25, 2021
Rewatching the DBS panel, there’s a few things I want to note about the subtitles. They’re fine overall but there’s a few things I think are oversimplified or left out. Going through roughly in order of importance…
When discussing the artwork for New Character 1 and 2, in Japanese Hayashida says how it’s Toriyama’s original artwork, unlike the Piccolo/Pan/etc images that have been developed into full-fledged anime designs. The subtitles instead say it was made before movie production began ImageImageImage
Now, it might indeed be true that Toriyama would’ve made the initial artwork before movie production began, but that’s not really what Hayashida is talking about. He’s contrasting this image with the earlier ones shown of Piccolo and co, which weren’t Toriyama’s original artwork
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Jul 22, 2021
May 15th, Age 767: after three days of rest, Goku recovers from his heart disease (a week earlier than Trunks expected). The situation may be dire, but Goku knows the perfect place where Vegeta and Trunks can finally spend some quality father/son time together... #HistoryofEver
Speaking of quality time, Goku and Chi Chi get a nice moment together in the anime, sharing a kiss far too hot to actually show on screen. Or include in the canon, for that matter.
Alright, so…in the original manga, Goku and Chi Chi are never shown kissing. In DBZ ep.147 they share an offscreen kiss (they later made a figurine based on this). In the DBS anime and manga, Goku claims never to have kissed his wife. Draw your own conclusions.
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Jul 21, 2021
May 12th, Age 767 (Bad Future Edition): at 10 AM on an island 9km southwest of South City, 17 and 18 begin their assault. Vegeta and co are mowed down, leaving Gohan sole survivor. Even the dragon balls are no use, since Pilaf and co wasted them on a dumb wish. #HistoryofEver
May 12th, Age 767 (Better Future Edition): 19 and 20 appear on schedule, but Our Heroes are ready. Well, Goku gets a bit sick, but Vegeta covers for him. While 19 and 20 don’t last long, 17 and 18 make short work of the gang. And that’s just the beginning of their problems…
Yes, it’s another busy day. May 12th has the honor of being one of the few specific dates mentioned in the series, although the year 767 comes from the Daizenshuu 7 timeline. If there’s any number pun significance to this date, I haven’t been able to find it.
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