One of the questions on the @Wehaveways livestream 2 weeks ago was about the Landing Vehicle Tracked (LVT), or Buffalo, and why they weren’t used at Normandy. So I thought it would be handy to explain one major reason they couldn’t be deployed.
In a nutshell, we simply didn’t have the amphibious lift capacity to get large numbers of LVTs across the Channel. They needed to be carried by larger landing craft & ships, but the only ones suitable were already allocated for other vehicles – tanks and trucks. 📷IWM B5258
The Royal Navy (for it was they that led Neptune) had evolved its amphibious forces along the lines of separate landing ships/craft for infantry and for vehicles. The LVT, being a vehicle for carrying infantry, didn’t fit very well into that model.
To massively scale down Neptune, let’s just say you want to land a battalion of infantry (no vehicles) and a squadron of tanks. This is massively simplified, but it hopefully gives you an idea of the problem.
The infantry battalion has 12 rifle platoons plus a few supports (heavy weapons etc…), so for the sake of argument let’s say 15 platoons. A Landing Craft Assault can carry one platoon, so you need 15 LCAs.
The LCA is a ship-to-shore landing craft – it cannot cross the Channel unaided. So they’re carried across in the davits of a larger Landing Ship Infantry. Indeed, many LSI were designed to carry a battalion and a suitable number of LCA to get them ashore.
The armoured squadron is typically 19 tanks, although it might also have some elements of HQ and support attached. But either way, you could easily fit this into 3 Landing Craft Tank Mk IV (roughly 8 per LCT depending on the tank).
The LCT is a shore-to-shore vessel – it can cross the Channel under its own power and doesn’t need a larger carrier. So your amphibious force consists of 3 LCT and 1 LSI carrying 15 LCA, transporting 15 platoons and 19 tanks.
Now, let’s say you want to use LVTs. An LVT can carry 24 men – less than a platoon – but for simplicity’s sake, let’s just round it up to a platoon. So you replace your 15 LCA with 15 LVT.
But, LVTs aren’t capable of crossing the Channel by themselves – they have to be carried. They are too big and heavy to be carried by the LSI though – instead you have to put the LVTs into the LCTs. 📷IWM A 26266
You can fit a maximum of 6 LVT onto the deck of an LCT Mk IV, so you need 3 of them carry your LVTs and your infantry component. The outcome of this is that you’ve made your LSI and 15 LCA redundant, and you’ve displaced all your armour to accommodate your infantry on the 3 LCT.
The Royal Navy had evolved over the past few years to use infantry vessels & vehicle vessels. The LVT didn’t fit into that arrangement & there simply weren’t enough vehicle vessels to carry both the armour & infantry components of an invasion of the scale of D-Day. 📷IWM A 23671
Of course, this also went beyond the logistics of transport – Combined Operations had, for years, been developing the LCA as the primary infantry amphibious assault vessel for years. Loads, training and tactics were all built around it.
Additionally, once an LVT gets onto the beach, what then? The LCAs turned around to pick up more men. If the LVTs would be needed to do the same, they can’t hang around to provide support for the infantry. So one benefit of the LVT is nullified.
What about turreted LVT-As to replace the DDs? At least the transport isn't a problem here, but the LVT only made its combat debut 7 months before D-Day. Training with DDs commenced 14 months before D-Day!
And even if you did use LVT-A's, once ashore, they're simply not as good as tanks. They're useful in inundated terrain, but there wasn't much in Normandy. Armour was needed in Normandy, not amphibious vehicles. So another benefit of the LVT is nullified. 📷NAM. 1985-10-134-15
The LVT worked in the Pacific, where there were more suitable carriers, tanks were not needed in as great numbers, landings were made on smaller fronts and the LVT's ability to cross reefs, inundations and and chaungs was more useful.
But D-Day had a significantly larger landing area & insufficient suitable carriers. Simply put, the LVT entered the war too late to be used as an assault vehicle on D-Day in the numbers required. Amphibious operations of Neptune’s scale were wholly built around the landing craft.
There will be many discussions about how well LVTs might have performed on the beaches, but they're essentially irrelevant if you can’t actually get them there in the first place.
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#OTD in 1944 General Daser, commander of German forces on Walcheren, surrenders. Refusing to surrender to a junior officer, Major RHB Johnston, commander A Coy 7/9 Scots, promotes himself to Lt Col and takes the surrender, as seen here.
But it's not all quite as true as that...
Alas this picture was not taken on 6 November and it doesn't show Major Johnston. And although Johnston did briefly assume the rank of Lt Col, there's very little evidence that he famously 'borrowed' a subaltern's pip to add to his crown. It was probably a lot simpler than that.
The war diaries from 7/9 Royal Scots, 155 Brigade HQ, 11 RTR plus the comms log, all agree that the recce force led by Johnston, that rushed to Middelburg in LVTs on 6 June to try and force a surrender, arrived in the town at 1615 and the main square at 1630.
Having looked further into the latest Duff D-Day claim – that Poole was "the third largest embarkation point" for D-Day – it appears that this is a classic example of how history can get lost as time passes. Let's see how. bbc.co.uk/news/articles/…
But let's get this out the way first. Many places played important and often unique roles in the war. This thread isn't to diminish any contribution made by any place. Nor is it to denigrate anyone in particular. Mistakes can be made and it can be all too easy to assume that...
... people before you did their research work properly. But that carries with it certain risks that – in this case – have created an error. Here it is on Wikipedia for example. It's quite a big one really.
Last night I gave a talk about the archaeology and historical research I conducted during the restoration of LCT 7074. It meant revisiting a lot of my earlier work and updating some of it 4 years later. And I’ve found something rather exciting!
There were only 3 known surviving LCT when 7074 was recovered. LCT 147 is a museum ship in Haifa, and LCT 203 is a working ship on Lake Superior. Both served in the Med during the war – neither of them was at Normandy. 📷Bukvoed, via Wikimedia Commons & Paul Swansen
This is not an attempt to justify what happened at Stonehenge today, or even to change anyone’s mind about it. I’d simply like to add some context that I feel has been missing from some reports, statements and tweets.
3 stones have been impacted, from L to R in the above image they are numbers 23, 22 & 21. They are sarsen stones, a type of sandstone and whilst they are porous, the substance thrown at them was apparently cornflour. The stones are not in any danger, nor are any carvings on them.
The stones have also suffered far worse. 23 and 22 were both re-erected in the 1960s, 23 after it mysteriously fell over a few years after it was whacked by 22 when it was itself being hoisted up by a crane. The lintel above 22 and 21 was similarly replaced by a crane.
I should be writing, so here's an impromptu #DDayfromAbove instead. I say impromptu – this one has been sat on my desktop for a while and I've tried, but failed, to complete the jigsaw. But sometimes you just don't have all the pieces. Anyway, to Gold Beach. 📷 NARA
So, where are we? Well, that stream, the Ruisseau du Marais, is the perfect clue to line up an aerial shot like this. Here's the same spot today. 📷Google Maps
And where is this on Gold Beach? It's right at the far east end of Jig Red Beach. Technically nothing was supposed to land here, but the bunker at WN37 (far right of the photo) created sufficient chaos on Jig Green to force the beachmasters to close the beach and divert to red.
Did the Allies almost land on Gem Beach on D-Day? Turns out, yes. So let's try and work out how and why this happened and what (if anything) it tells us about the final choice of perhaps the most famous beach names in the world.
I have tackled this before in this thread, but more has now come to light which helps to answer a few more questions. So you can read this again if you like, but I'm going to start from the beginning again anyway.
First, at some point in the early 1940s, probably 1942 or 1943, the Inter Service Topographic Department identified potential landing sites on the enemy-held European coast. This included beaches and chines in the cliffs where troops or vehicles could get ashore.