Thread based on the result of the Survey. Written along @rexie43
Fascist Socialism
Who hasn’t seen the following video?
Although goofy, this video makes a claim with some truth. It being that “Fascists are Socialists with a National Identity”, their interpretation of it leads them to Low IQ takes that explain why Conservatives will always fail, but...
Drinking from Sorelian Syndicalist thought, Hegelian philosophy, Nietzschean vitalism, Proudhonian revolutionary attitude, and overall Italian thinkers such as Mazzini. Fascism would be born to spite both the Right Wing and the Left Wing.
Despite holding a good amount of Leftists in their groups and claiming to "sit on the right". Fascism would lead them all into a new type of revolution, that is, the Fascist Revolution. Ending up with the separation from both and adopting a Third Way to go.
Now then, given the fact we’ve explained what Fascism is before, it is now time to explain what the term “Fascist Socialism” stands for. In order to do this, we will touch on Johann Fichte, a German Idealist philosopher that theorized Ethical Socialism...
which to put it in fewer words, was a type of Socialism developed before Scientific Socialism (That is Marxist Socialism). Not really engaging in the material dialectics of the latter, this Socialism enables itself to be used for Nationalistic purposes.
Fichte proposes the idea of basing society sthrough social awareness and responsibility, involving class collaboration, state intervention and the nationalization of the masses to "socialize" them into a National Identity.
The thought of Fichte would inspire Hegel. Hegelian thought would end up being the main core idea through which Giovanni Gentile would develop most of the Philosophy of Fascism.
Fascist Socialism does not imply Left Wing policies nor “ONE STRUGGLE” ideas. Fascist Socialism implies that us Fascists have our own way of Socialism that goes way past Marx’s thought. Our Socialism is that of Nationality, is that of mutual responsibility and social welfare...
is that of nationalizing not industry (it can happen if the State wants to), but the spirit of your compatriots.
Having the state direct the economy in the welfare of the Nation through leading the path, not really taking full control unless needed or culturally desired.
The idea of Fascist Socialism seems to be so foreign to even supposed Fascists of the modern day, that just the thought of it makes them think that it means there’s some sort of Left Wing subversion or that it is lIteRaLLy NazBolism, when it only explains...
the origins and meaning of the ideas of Fascism, it being that Fascist Socialization (Industry or Nation wise) has always been in our genes. Fascism seeks the abolition of the distinction between Proletariat and Bourgeoisie, the distinction between street sweeper and farmer...
the distinction of regionalisms, not because it wants to eliminate them, but because (in the Marxist sense of Abolition) it seeks those concepts to be surpassed for the only acceptable identity, and that is the identity of the Nation which is split between Parasites and Workers.
Parasites being the groups that divide the Nation and create conflicts among equals, that is someone that endorses class struggle, sexist ideas, separatist ideas, classism, etc. Workers being the ones who work and live for, and by the Fatherland.
Distinctions will be accepted, competition will be endorsed, merit will be valued, different ideas wont be disregarded, but National Identity will supersede all of them. In the end, it all comes down to the Final Socialization, that is, applying Socialism of the People.
This type of dialectic would end up being partially the way in which Mussolini interpreted WW2; being the struggle of Proletariat Nations vs Plutocratic Nations. But that is a full topic in on itself.
A Socialism of Nationalistic nature that adapts itself and handles its view not through dogmatic or reactionary policies, but through an adaptation of the times and needs. This is, as Mussolini and many other Fascists leaders would put it; Our Fascist Socialism.
As Perón would explain, the cultural, ethnic, and geographic variants are what makes the requirement of adapting each Nationalist Socialism to the conditions of each Nation. Anti-Dogmatic in Nature, this socialism...
goes beyond Left and Right by doing what it may need, regardless of terms to brand itself with. Regardless of the eternal Cliche of the Left and Right; A Nationally based/adapted socialism.
Although the claim that Fascists are Socialists with National Identity is true, the overal assessment that we belong to the Left showcases the historical misinterpretation both of Fascism and Socialism as terms, given the fact that Socialism existed before Marxism itself.
and Fascism developed itself into a relativistic truth of Humanity, that does not seek to be a doctrine but a method for a doctrine that will not vary based on dogmatic policies, but on the National situation of a group.
The End.
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Idealism in the philosophical understanding of the world, is the denial of the existence of the material world with the proposal that everything we see and experience is an Idea, that is, a mental experience. There's no material world beyond our ideas, nothing but ideas.