So, for those keeping tabs on tonight's @FoxNews soap opera:

@BretBaier claims to read a random viewer question that links travel bans and illegal immigration

@ellencarmichael admits it was her, not a random viewer - i.e., a planted question, but not about immigration

@FoxNews @BretBaier @ellencarmichael Baier, apparently not realizing Carmichael has already owned the planted question and said so publicly on Twitter, doubles down:


@FoxNews @BretBaier @ellencarmichael Carmichael, unfortunately, now inadvertently rats out Baier - or whoever tacked on the immigration bullshit - and plays the victim (which is a very savvy political consultant move, I guess).


@FoxNews @BretBaier @ellencarmichael At this point, Carmichael's friend @wupton white-knights his way over to say: No, no, she's really raising this question, and it's a good thing to ask, because it's legit (even though she just said it wasn't in her original question).

As this devolves into people all frantically trying to extricate themselves from a bad planted question while "Yakety Sax" plays, Will remembers when I smoked cigars with him in the days before The Federalist spoke up for Roy Moore.

So, to recap, Baier asked a planted question, added something the person who planted it claims she didn't intend, while a friend of the planter then says she *did* intend it. Top professionals on display, and this the final and cutting response.


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