For those of you having difficulty understand why people don't trust the vaccine, let me shed some light on the matter. A thread:
Imagine you're a normal person, and you come back from your men's rights group meeting and you log on to a gaming review website and 1/
In ADDITION to denying the efficacy of the miracle drug ivermectin, the so-called medical experts do nothing but take a dump on the Alex Jones concoction you've been taking that have been helping you bulk up.
Yet we're supposed to believe them when 34/
The same media reporting on the vaccine is the one that lets you sign up for their paper online but to cancel you have to CALL AND TALK TO SOMEBODY.
How is that trustworthy?! 71/
Because the applesauce has those rib things, you are invariably left with applesauce in the container that you can't get out!
Corporate America is stealing your applesauce@!@! You simply can't trust them or their drugs. 88/
Remember two weeks to flatten the curve? Yeah that was a big lie. I mean, it was Trump who said it but the deep state made him. We can't trust a government that forces honorable presidents to say things they know aren't true. 112/
And schools! Let's talk about schools! They're nothing but CRT factories and also the government kept them closed FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR! Can you believe it?
So you decide you're going to homeschool, but then they act like you're a religious weirdo and 143/
and Brie Larson wasn't even any good. She was stiff as a board. The whole movie was a feminist lecture. Count me out. But as soon as you say you don't care for the movie and call the lead actress an entitled bitch people call you a sexist. 166/
And so the more they want you to take the vaccine, the more reluctant you get. If they would just respect your decision not to get the vaccine and never talk to you about it or talk about how they got the vaccine or show any sign of taking Covid seriously at all, then you'd 182/
while the politicians who are supposed to be taking this seriously instead fly on planes without masks. Those Hollywood starlets telling people to be careful are throwing parties and having sex. A lot of sex, probably. Which they wouldn't do if they took the virsu seriously. 213/
So imagine you're this guy. Just for a minute. Would you take the vaccine?
That's what I thought /fin
Getting some requests for my genuine (non-smartass) critique of the thread this is mocking. It's this:
The original thread was not so much a tool for understanding vaccine hesitation as it was a laundry list of pre-existing grievances debited to vaccine hesitance.
To the extent that there is overlap between his reasoning and realworld hesitancy, it is with the group of unvaccinated that are most hostile and least persuadable. Certainly unpersuadable by people like me.
That doesn't negate any value in "understanding", but I don't think it's very novel to say that some people's (across the spectrum) perceptions of the vaccine and Covid are wedded to political priors. That's the only real insight of the original thread, and it was accidental.
I support being as generous and kind with as possible with the vaccine-hesitant. Many have fears that are real even if mostly - in my estimation - misguided.
But for people who would point to Brexit and polling errors, there is not much I can pragmatically do with that. /fin
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1) What is it with the right demanding apologies all the time whenever people happen to be wrong. It's... not exactly a habit I see the right being into. (Like... have I missed the apologies for "People will stop caring about Covid after the election"?)
2) There is a lot to criticize about his pandemic response, but "he's a cretin" is not really a criticism of his pandemic response, nor is complimenting his pandemic response saying that he is not a cretin.
"Did you hear Joe got fired for sexual harassment?"
"Wow. You complimented him on his TPS reports. I can't believe you were running interference for a sexual harasser what the hell is wrong with you?"
As is often the case, caught between two sides on the masking thing with some folks arguing that it's a minor inconvenience any complaints about which are posturing and whining, and a lot of people who are in fact posturing and whining.
Mask-wearing genuinely hits different people differently. That you don't mind, or your child doesn't mind (or there are no apparent adverse effects) is great. Not universally applicable.
And for heaven's sake, masks really are not an avatar for personal liberty.
For my part, I don't mind wearing masks. I don't have to wear them all day, however, so I don't know if that might change my perspective. My wife does wear them all day and doesn't mind them at all.
People aren't good with "This is effective but not 100% effective" calculations but attempts by health people to compensate ("Since this is not 100% effective we need to stress how not effective it is so they know it's not 100% effective") just makes matters worse.
If it is the case that the vaccine is ineffective against spread and we have to wear masks to prevent spread, people talking about "But the messaging!" need to let it go. But...
if it's actually mostly about unverifiability and trust of who is vaccinated and who isn't, and conditional enforcement based on unknown status isn't feasible then just talk about that (perhaps using more simple words).
Phillip H explains well why I am so concerned about grade school in particular. I may be biased because my kid is in that group, but I do think if she weren't I'd be less insistent on doing everything possible to get her into a classroom. I think. ordinary-times.com/2020/08/20/eve…