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Aug 13, 2021 18 tweets 6 min read Read on X
The latest disclosure of an HMRC briefing note provided to the then FST in July 2019 makes for some more chilling reading. whatdotheyknow.com/request/776882…
It appears that HMRC did not like the previous draft of the standard letter being sent to all MPs.
1/17
Apparently different MPs (and their constituents) had different concerns and HMRC recognised that a meaningful standard response would be difficult to draft.
2/17
It was possible that, following a meeting with the APPG, major reforms were going to be announced. However, HMRC argued that that might reduce the money coming into the Treasury and therefore any such change would need further consideration.
3/17
After that, the disclosures get jucier.
Here's some deft deflection. No-one doubts that these loan schemes were used knowingly by some individuals predominantly company directors to gain financially.
But what HMRC ignore is that MOST were contractors who didn't know or gain.
4/17
Apparently, “fact-based arguments” failed to convince MPs of the appropriateness of the LC policy.

Indeed, HMRC once again recognise that there are principled objections to the LC.

If the facts failed to work, HMRC therefore needed to adopt a different strategy.

5/17
Again, HMRC recognise that the official line to date has not actually addressed people’s concerns (which we know from above were principled).
6/17
Straightaway, however, it comes down to politics. Most MPs it would seem would have wanted the loan charge to become prospective only.
7/17
HMRC acknowledge that there were people who were duped or forced into these schemes.

8/17
But helping those who were forced or duped would be difficult for HMRC to implement and therefore that option is ruled out.
9/17
Here is a comment whose irony seems to be lost on HMRC.
1. Let’s not treat loan charge victims fairly because actual tax avoiders might want fair treatment too.
2. It overlooks the fact that the loan charge treats LC victims less favourably than actual tax avoiders.
10/17
Again, HMRC acknowledge the principled concerns about the LC – being retrospection and removal of access to justice.
11/17
Again, HMRC mention the minority of business owners who were those who knew what they were getting involved with. They are also the ones who would be most likely to have existing employers that HMRC had probably taken action under reg 80 (as per Rangers itself).
12/17
Here, HMRC try to ensure that the loan charge remains in place for unprotected years blaming taxpayers for “hiding” their participation. In fact HMRC had full knowledge through DOTAS but missed people. HMRC make out some hid their participation to rule out that option.
13/17
The option identified here was precisely what Morse later decided upon.
14/17
Even the view that all post-2011 years should be retained because HMRC might have taken their eye off the ball – that too found its way into the conclusions from the Morse review.
15/17
HMRC now go further and admit that there was the “most principled objection” to the fact that the LC covers unprotected years.
16/17
The reason for retaining the LC for protected years is because HMRC believe (without any legal justification I should add) that they would win any dispute and it is just a bit too much of a faff for them to prove their position in Court.
Obiter comments in Hoey show why.
17/17
In earlier disclosures, HMRC make repeated references to having to agree "the line" to be taken when speaking to @LordsEconCom.

Sorry for the simplistic question, but why not focus on the truth instead?

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More from @keithmgordon

Jul 12, 2022
Seeing the flurry of ministers and ex-ministers extolling their virtues and those of colleagues, I thought I would revisit an issue.
1/10
It will be remembered that the former FST (@meljstride) was shoe-horned into chairing the Treasury Select Committee @CommonsTreasury, with his appointment apparently actively supported by government whips.
2/10
I am advised that it is relatively unusual for an ex-minister to be appointed to such a high-profile position so soon after leaving office as there is a risk (and the perception) of marking one’s own homework.
3/10
Read 10 tweets
Jul 5, 2022
This revelation raises a number of interesting points.
1. It shows that HMRC were very conscious that their new found use of s684(7A) might be struck down by the courts.
1/5
2. Indeed, after lying unused on the statute books for 15 years, the guidance as to its use kept changing over the next two or so years.
2/5
3. There is a possible contradiction about versions of the guidance between December 2018 and March 2021.

HMRC say that they can’t show these intermediate versions.

But they also say that those versions have been archived and are not lost.

3/5
Read 5 tweets
Jun 30, 2022
One of the advantages of these latest disclosures is that it caused me to look back at a Subject Access Request I made to HMRC in 2020.
1/7
When HMRC finally complied, they gave me a long list of snippets where I had been cited in internal despatches.
2/7
Some references were pretty bland.
Others were quite odd – presumably as a result of some officers not really knowing or understanding me.
3/7
Read 7 tweets
Jun 28, 2022
It has been of some interest to see a FOIA request seeking information about my meeting back in 2019 with @Jesse_Norman , then the FST, about the loan charge. He was newly in post and claimed to want to resolve the controversies.
1/15
The material disclosed will of course be of interest to those who will want to know what I said. In fact, I was asked on 14 June by the Treasury if I objected to disclosure. I responded the same day to say that I didn't object. I have nothing to hide.whatdotheyknow.com/request/meetin…
2/15
However, of equal interest perhaps is the efforts it took for this material to emerge.
From what I understood, a request was made 10 months ago for details (including follow-up comments) of all meetings JN had with external voices. I was one of ten.
whatdotheyknow.com/request/meetin…
3/15
Read 18 tweets
Apr 3, 2022
I make the following brief reflections on the Hoey proceedings.
They reflect solely my perception of the oral arguments and should not be taken as any comment on what the law actually says/means.
In short, I am pessimistic about Mr Hoey’s chances of success.
1/9
#hoey
It must be remembered that there are a number of different issues – ultimately representing HMRC’s different lines of attack.
2/9
HMRC’s most ambitious approach was to invoke the “transfer of assets abroad” code – this met strong resistance from the Court and I expect the Court to find in Mr Hoey’s favour on this point.

That leaves the case squarely in the realm of employment taxes and the PAYE rules.
3/9
Read 9 tweets
Feb 27, 2022
I have seen yet more FOIA disclosures about the loan charge.
whatdotheyknow.com/request/emails…
1/13
This reference to “covering our backs” is rather unfortunate.
Unfortunately, the full range of strategies has been redacted. But it is interesting to see that HMRC have concerns about defining what is meant by “fair disclosure” by taxpayers.
2/13
Of considerable interest is the Treasury memo anticipating the announcement of what became the Morse review.
3/13
Read 13 tweets

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