One of the things about incel culture that I find so weird is that it;s predicated on an idea of how women think which is just totally unrealistic and outlandish.

For instance, this idea that women rank men into some kind of imagined hierarchy of high status, or below average...
as if we've got an Excel spreadsheet in our heads and we're categorising every man we meet by comparing them with everyone else.

It just smacks of having learned everything you know about women from men who want you to feel shit about yourself.
The fact is that we all know women (and many of us have been women!) in relationships with guys who don't bring much to the table in terms of personality, kindness, looks, or money, and it's totally baffling to people on the outside why they're putting up with a load of crap.
It's not like the guys who are unkind, or cold, or disloyal are always good looking or successful. Some of them are bums!

We haven't got an algorithm which sorts men for us. Women are just as bamboozled by the fear of loneliness, or the fear of being unloved, as anyone else.
There's a lot in our culture which is really fucked up about dating, and its role in making us feel like less than we are. The experience of womanhood isn't feeling uniquely empowered when it comes to sex and romance - quite the opposite, a lot of the time.
The difference is that there isn't the same pipeline channelling women's self-loathing into violence against men.

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