Thread: Final films in my investigation into the vaccine claims and the Dark Horse launch today, a response to criticisms, including from Bret Weinstein in a recent podcast. This will be a tweet thread summarising the situation and the backstory 1/n
Two films, my final response to critics, and another hugely important and significant interview with Eric Osgood MD, who until recently was part of Pierre Kory's FLCCC, the main organisation advocating for Ivermectin. He now feels he must speak out
He is still hopeful that Ivermectin will prove to be effective, though believes that it is not effective, but he has been deeply troubled by the way that the case for Ivermectin has been hijacked by anti-vaccine activists, and how the FLCCC has enabled this to happen
The second film is my response to criticisms of the investigation into vaccines and the Dark Horse, and also to specific criticisms on the podcast from @BretWeinstein and @HeatherEHeying
There are two audiences here. The unreachable anti-vaccine hardcore, and those who are understandably concerned about novel vaccines created quickly in a pandemic. Bret and Heather became a key nexus linking the two when they chose to host figures like Steve Kirsch
These two audiences need to be addressed and dealt with in different ways. I have tried to avoid shaming or judgemental language, to reach as many of the latter as possible and provide them information to make up their own minds, which they haven't been hearing on the Dark Horse
Rebel Wisdom shares around a third of our subscribers with the Dark Horse, and this has left me in a unique position, which has also been a unique responsibility, and hopefully opportunity to be heard by the non-partisans, non-obsessive anti-vaccine audience
Bret believes that the lack of detailed pushback in the MSM means that they are largely right. No, it's because this topic is lodged firmly in the 'Uncanny Valley' between the mainstream and the alternative: medium.com/rebel-wisdom/t…
Heather claimed there is "little careful scientific pushback" thus far, which I dispute, having put out a detailed factual investigation, and hosted @ydeigin for a very careful factual rebuttal of many of the key claims from the Dark Horse: medium.com/rebel-wisdom/o…
Bret argued that I should have "accepted the findings" of the Better Skeptics project, which gave their podcast a "clean bill of health". That's the BS project run by Dark Horse super fan Alex Marinos, and new best friend of antivax star Robert Malone
Ironically, my main criticism of Dark Horse was that they had got caught in a very small echo chamber of vaccine skepticism (Robert Malone/Steve Kirsch). In the aftermath of the film, Steve Kirsch confirmed this when he sent me an email copying in ALL the main figures

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3 Sep
Clarifying my position on Ivermectin. Matt Taibbi's headline called me "Ivermectin critic", while acceptable journalistic shorthand, is not quite accurate. I've been critical of specific claims made about IVM, and still accept it may be proved to have benefit as a treatment 1/n
People struggle to hold the complexity beyond assuming someone is either "pro" or "anti" something. I'm sure the whole sensemaking thing annoys people (or will soon), but one of the key concepts is not to 'collapse into certainty' too quickly, and notice when you've done so 2/n
I try to hold a range of possibilities, and people whose judgement I value like @EdoajoEric still believe it will prove beneficial as a treatment. There seems to be a pattern where many of the frontline doctors who've used it seem more bullish on its benefits as a treatment 3/n
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2 Sep
thanks Matt for taking an interest in this story from both sides, much appreciated. Will post the key pieces here for anyone new to the story. The final film in my investigation that was taken down, I've re-exported and uploaded here:
It goes together with a long written investigation into the claims around vaccines and ivermectin that I published on my Medium page: medium.com/rebel-wisdom/o…
I also wrote an initial piece about the wider issues this flags up with finding truth, sensemaking and the broken information landscape in Areo magazine: 3/4
areomagazine.com/2021/08/12/on-…
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3 Aug
Hey Bret. On this topic, hosting Yuri had nothing to do with the BS project. I was in contact with Yuri long before it was conceived. I recorded a piece with him straight after the Quillette piece, I held off when you told me privately that you felt he had betrayed your trust 1/n
The Quillette piece had some flaws, but it was far from content free, and Yuri has good signal on other objections that didn't make it into the Q piece. You and Heather frequently referred to him and it to a v large audience 2/n
Yuri was in touch with you privately for a long time, as have I been. I understand your reluctance to dialogue with Yuri publicly, I agree he has an attitude that means this may not go well. However, I believe strongly that our viewers - deserve to hear both sides 3/n
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2 Aug
I think this is a fair summary of what actually happened, though we clearly have different understandings on what this means, Max is a friend who I suggested as a referee, and I respect him for laying things out clearly 1/n
I have a few comments. Firstly, I had been planning to interview Yuri well before the BS process began, and in my view was irrelevant and overdue. I apologised this morning in my message if Yuri presented material that wasn't his and I failed to pick it up, that's on me 2/n
I was initially approached to be a potential referee and this was not appropriate, so was given a role as "observer". It was never made clear what that involved other than access to the Twitter thread to observe the interactions between the referees, and covering the project 3/n
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1 Aug
Alex expects that everyone in the world should trust him and his process for "identifying truth", and wait until he has passed judgement. My *integrity* is in pursuing truth through my work, I have zero obligation to him and his project, and plenty to the wider world
My work stands on its own. I have my views on Ivermectin, but I put out a piece with both pro and anti folks, and challenged both and reflected their views fairly
I hosted Yuri because I believe he has some good signal, and because B&H have now talked "about" him twice, to their large audience, and not to him. I also took care to put Bret and Heather's points to Yuri, and challenge his position and actions.
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