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Aug 27, 2021 9 tweets 3 min read Read on X
The areas of disagreement in the IC will surely generate more discussion, but important to emphasize the common ground among intelligence agencies’ assessment of #OriginsOfCovid. This should reasonably bracket future discussions. odni.gov/index.php/news…
✅ Emergence no later than November.
✅ First outbreak in December.
❌ Not genetically engineered.
❌ Not a bioweapon.
❌ No prior knowledge by officials of its emergence.

I suppose that doesn’t rule out knowledge between emergence and the first outbreak.
This rules out the idea, circulating in the weirder corners of “lab leak” world, that the Military World Games were the site of an outbreak in October-November 2019.
There is disagreement among agencies about natural zoonosis vs a lab escape of some sort. Most agencies with an opinion favor natural zoonosis. They do so with “low confidence,” which reflects that there’s no firm evidence of how that happened.
One intelligence agency (unnamed, alas) expresses “moderate” confidence that the virus first reached humans as a result of something “laboratory-associated.” The summary doesn’t explain why that agency has higher confidence yet other agencies don’t even assign it low confidence.
It does explain that some agencies put more weight on scientific publications.
I’m sure I’m not alone in wishing they released more details on what evidence the agencies relied on. At least open source and unclassified materials should be possible to list, and perhaps some indication of how they assessed or weighted those pieces of evidence.
I agree that we should want more openness from China in what they know already. I take the last sentence here to be a warning about what diplomatic approaches are more and less likely to get the cooperation we want.
Floating wild and evidenceless allegations seems like it would enhance “frustration that the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China.” If so, the saber-rattling of lab leakers would make the investigation they purport to want *less* likely.

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Mar 3, 2023
This by @KatzOnEarth makes a crucial point that gets glossed over in 99% of #OriginsOfCovid discourse. There’s no unitary “lab leak theory.” There’s nothing that generates testable predictions (a necessity for something to be science). theracket.news/p/there-is-no-…
The Trump/Pompeo State Department had a whole special stovepiped team dedicated to claiming COVID was a Chinese government bioweapon released on purpose. Or maybe by accident. But probably at the World Military Games.
This was bizarre and stupid and had no relationship to anything in biology or human behavior or the epidemiology of the virus. But it got the old Iraq-WMD team together and almost led to a formal diplomatic protest claiming bioweapon treaty violations.
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Mar 1, 2023
Truly nothing I wrote to Mr. Barkan is a) accusing anyone of lying or b) politically polarized. @RossBarkan could obviously delete this, apologize, and respond to my request for a scientific basis for his conclusions (and rejecting the findings of 5 other intel agencies). Image
To be very clear, here’s what I wrote. Each tweet specifically focuses on evidence rather than partisan alignment of the issue. The only one polarizing the discussion is @RossBarkan. I’m not accusing DOE of lying, but Barkan is. I expect better of @NYMag and @thenation writers. ImageImageImage
But @RossBarkan’s angle here is illustrative. He *assumes* that the entire dynamic of the #OriginsOfCovid discourse exists in a political realm. It seems not to *occur* to him that people are capable of reaching conclusions based on evidence.
Read 7 tweets
Mar 1, 2023
Oh wow, Trump’s stooge agrees with Trump. I’m sure the FBI has a proud history of investigation microbiology…
Not like the FBI has a history of claiming a deadly microbe was released from a government lab based on flimsy and poorly-analyzed evidence, or of falsely accusing multiple people of mass murder with a microbe only to have to walk it back later, with a costly settlement to boot.
Read 4 tweets
Feb 28, 2023
If I were writing an essay about how “the way to follow the science is to *follow* the science,” I’d probably cite literally any of the scientific literature (which all concludes zoonosis is most likely), rather than just mocking tweets.
Here are some of the top virologists and viral epidemiology experts, concluding zoonosis is most likely and lab scenarios don’t make sense. In Cell, one of biomedicine’s top journals: cell.com/cell/fulltext/…
Here’s Michael Worobey (who was open to lab scenarios early on) and other top virology experts finding…well, the headline is darn clear. In Science, one of the world’s top journals. science.org/doi/10.1126/sc…
Read 8 tweets
Nov 13, 2022
MGP’s win in WA-3 could be the difference between Speaker Pelosi and Speaker Marjorie Taylor Greene. It was given 2% chance. Almost no help from the DCCC until nearly the end. Feels in some ways like Nancy Boyda’s surprise win in KS-2 in 2006. Hope MGP stays longer though.
MGP didn’t run away from her party or it’s positions. She replaces Jaime Herrera Beutler, one of the few GOP Representatives to impeach Trump. WA’s top two primary meant she and MAGA insurrectionist loon Joe Kent were on a ballot with Beutler. Herrera Beutler finished third.
People cited this alongside Democratic interventions that may have boosted election deniers over moderates in GOP primaries, and was held out as a bad thing. But again, MGP’s win may be the difference between a Dem House and a MAGA impeachment of Biden over…whatev.
Read 4 tweets
Nov 11, 2022
This by top virologist Bob Garry is a really exceptional rundown of what we know about the #OriginOfCovid and why a lab sceniario doesn’t make sense. Also really struck by this line: pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pn… Image
I was talking with a leaker recently who blamed the virology community and especially the leakers’ usual list of suspects for his personal case of Long COVID. It struck me forcefully (again) in that chat how leak conspiracies are psychologically powerful and socially harmful.
It’s hard to have a chronic illness. Harder still to have one with no particular place to lay blame. A random viral spillover from bats near a farm, into a raccoon dog, and to shoppers at a market, is less less meaningful than if someone intended to make something dangerous.
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