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12 Sep, 4 tweets, 3 min read
A puzzling discrepancy: In late 2018, Latinne et al. presented their abstract at a Taiwan symposium. H/T @Ayjchan

Latinne et al. abstract: "Our dataset included more than 1300 partial RdRp sequences from CoVs..in China." 1/4
sites.google.com/site/2018biohe…
hackmd.io/@4vUYkxFUR3-B9…
In Y3 of EHA's grant report, the same figure is quoted: "Host-virus co-phylogeographic analysis of a diverse group of >1,300 bat CoVs showing that
these viruses have a larger host range, weaker host specificity and higher frequency of cross-genera transmission.." 2/4
However in Latinne et al. published in @Nature (2020), they only report 1,246 sequences: “Our final datasets include 630 sequences generated for this study and 616 sequences from GenBank or GISAID.” (1,229 sequences in the supplementary material) 3/4
nature.com/articles/s4146…
The resulting gap amounts to more than 54 bat CoV sequences, which is quite significant.

So serious question: where is it?

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