1b. This makes sense, because:
(a) in the US, people 65+ have the lowest case rates
(b) most of those cases are in not-fully-vax'd
(c) fully vax'd recover faster
(d) people 65+ have fewer contacts
Bottom line: to halt transmission, fully vax'd seniors would be lowest priority.
2a. Earliest data on immunity come from those fully vax'd by Jan 31 (bit.ly/2VBogPX).
We have almost no data at 8 months, no data on long-term booster effectiveness.
If is to bolster long-term immunity, recommending boosters w/o data seriously harms FDA credibility.
2b. Side notes on the data from Israel:
a) USA had 3x more people vax'd by Feb 1.
b) Early vax'ers in Israel are not representative of the population (bit.ly/390Rcnr).
c) No evidence of waning immunity in the USA (bit.ly/3lgLV0S).
Why not trust larger US data?
2c. Data cited for waning immunity (bit.ly/3kba6P7):
a) are 6 months post-vax
b) have strong confounders (lower rates if Arab/Jan vax than Jewish/May vax)
c) ignore larger datasets (bit.ly/3Ele7sj, bit.ly/3lgLV0S), also 6 months post-vax, w/o waning
2d. To summarize:
a) At 6 months, vax still working very well.
b) Data on waning are unconvincing.
c) Essentially no data at 8 months post-2nd dose.
d) Zero data on long-term effectiveness of boosters.
If goal is to bolster long-term immunity, there is no data-driven rationale.
3a. What's left is a short-term protective effect of a booster shot.
This is undoubtedly a real thing.
See data above on rates after booster in Israel, also below from bit.ly/2VyUWJI.
But this shouldn't be conflated w long-term protection.
3b. This is like comparing:
Person A who got sick in Jan and again 2 wks ago, vs
Person B who only got sick in Jan.
Person A will be protected for a while, because their immune system (mostly antibodies) is ramped up.
But 6 months from now, there might not be any difference.
3c. It's also worth noting that most recent evidence (bit.ly/3lgLV0S) suggests vax is still >90% effective vs hospitalization.
Even in the short term, you can't get too much better.
3d. And the US & Israel are very different in important ways:
a) Israel boosters given while cases going up, but transmission in the US has fallen sharply (see below from covidestim.org).
b) Case rates in 65+ are similar to other ages in Israel, but much lower in the US.
3e. If we want to give people a short-term boost, wouldn't it make sense to wait until cases were rising?
If we give boosters now and have another wave in Dec, we will have lost our chance to give that short-term protection when we need it most.
Bottom line, boosters in 65+:
1. Do not substantially affect transmission 2. Have no data on long-term effectiveness 3. Are best given for short-term effect when transmission is going up.
Please consider this in your $1 billion (~50 mil people * $20/dose) decision. Thank you.
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A visual representation of what we know and don't know about waning immunity.
We know, at 6-8 months:
- Partial vax not great.
- Full vax ~70-85% effective (better vs severe disease than infection).
- Booster gives short-term bump.
We don't know what happens next.
4 scenarios:
Scenario A: Booster gives long-term benefit (by increasing immune memory), and immunity to 2-dose series continues to wane.
In this scenario, boosters are the right thing to do, now.
Scenario B: Booster doesn't improve immune memory, so the added effect of booster is short-lived.
This is the worst-case, and in my mind least likely - because vax has been effective, w/o booster, for 8 months now.
Here, booster helps a bit, but we need revised vax.
@NEJM joining the waning immunity debate. I'm going to push back a bit.
Data from @UCSDHealth of vax effectiveness in health workers: 94% in June, 65% in July. Interpreted as "likely to be due to...delta and waning immunity over time, compounded by end of masking requirements."
1. re: delta. ~50% of CA sequences were delta in June. So if delta were the driving factor, we would expect to see some waning of vax effect in June (~halfway between May & July) - which we don't.
2. Same thing with waning immunity. According to the paper, vaccination started in mid-Dec, and it took 3 months to get 76% of workers vax'd. Why then would we see no waning of effect in May or June - and then a sudden drop of 30% in July?
If you're in the US right now, how worried should you be about the recent uptick in COVID cases?
A plain-language thread below.
Long story short - the 4th wave is here, and it's time to start acting now before things get worse. But without hitting the panic button.
1. Let's start with the bad news.
Cases are doubling about every 9 days right now - nationwide. This is eerily similar to the rate of increase when each of the previous 3 waves hit. And no state is being spared.
In terms of case counts, the 4th wave is happening. Now.
2. COVID deaths are likely to follow.
We generally see a 3-week delay between when cases go up and when deaths increase.
Since cases have only been increasing for 3 weeks now, we haven't seen an increase in deaths - but we will soon.
I'm really struggling these days with the politicization of pandemic science.
A quick thread on why I worry that we as scientists are only being inclusive of certain perspectives.
And thereby pushing people away who might otherwise have a lot to offer.
Consider papers with one of the following conclusions:
COVID worsened disease X (except flu).
COVID worsened disparities.
Measures should be more stringent.
Things are going to get worse.
Conservative policies made things worse.
Then consider papers with opposite conclusions.
These conclusions all have political undertones.
But papers w certain conclusions are more likely to be published & cited, while others are more likely to be criticized.
So, if you are an intelligent, but conservative-leaning, thinker, is this a game you want to join?