@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Wie lang sind Journos auf 2050 rumgeritten, wie oft haben sie Klima verharmlost, ihr Ego aufgegeilt beim Verzögern der Debatte ums Eingemachte, the Devil's Advocate gemimt&eingeladen, Klimaschutzkosten falsch geframet? Die schreiben Klima dekadent runter! Da wächst kein Grün mehr
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Du mahnst an, dass Grüne uns nicht für dumm verkaufen sollen? Das tun doch Polit-Journos! Deren bewusstes Versagen hält uns dumm. Die klären uns weder zu Klima oder zum real Nötigen gescheit auf, noch zu Polit-Klimasabotage. Darum war BTW17 2Jahre nach Paris auch keine Klimawahl!
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Polit-Journos hätten uns bei jeder Politiker-Message sagen müssen, wie irrelevant 2050 ist. Noch vor ein paar Wochen säte Tagesschau Zweifel an der Funktionsweise des AMOC und seiner Wichtigkeit für Europa UND verlinkte mitten im Artikel: "Manche freut der Klimawandel: Grönland"
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Journos debattieren PKW-Antriebe, meist natürlich faktisch falsch - aber wie Flächenversiegelung, suburban sprawl, Energie- & Rohstoffverschwendung in Straßen und🏘️ samt dem Ökozid dabei RÜCKGÄNGIG zu machen sind- und deshalb der all das enabelnde PKW weg muss, davon liest man 0.
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Journos schreiben den Veggyday runter. Aber wie uns ne Erwärmungsbombe droht, weil weniger SO2 emittiert wird,
und weniger CH4🐄und N2O🐷🚗das ausgleichen hilft, verschweigen sie. Die Welterklärer töten für ne Handvoll Dollar lieber den Messenger, für Klima sind sie zu dekadent.
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Ich geb ja nix auf das Würfeln von "Klima-Ökonomen", aber letztens paperte einer, dass bis 2100 pro 4.4Kt CO2 1 Mensch in Klimadesastern stirbt.
Wieviel Tote haben deutsche Polit-Journos auf dem Gewissen? Frei nach Tucholsky: Polit-Journalisten sind Mörder.
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Demnach werden, dank Journos, die *heutigen* 83mio Einwohner von D allein bis 2100 mit ihrem durchschnittlichen Lebens-CO2-Verbrauch 15mio Menschen töten. Über 2100 hinaus wirds nur zu unübersichtlich zum Zählen.
@berndulrich@Die_Gruenen Parteien werden nur gewählt für etwas, das die Bevölkerung als wahr und nötig erkannt hat.
Was das im Einzelnen ist, bestimmen die systemrelevanten Polit-Journalisten <clapclap> mit ihrem dekadenten Delayertum.
Also wer verkauft uns für dumm?!
@MarvinTBaumann @ClimateDad77 I get your psych. thinking. But. Sit down and sketch a project plan with milestones and deadlines for keeping tech-civilisation afloat. Don't forget culture change toward solidarity: You'll find that only today's decision makers in econ & politics still ⏩
@MarvinTBaumann @ClimateDad77 can change our trajectory on time=in budget. With "today's decision makers" I really mean today's. So it doesn't matter a lot if non-decision-makers get depressed [by the truth]. It's not in their hands anymore, anyway. Covid saw to that. (That's how close we are to deadlines!)⏩
@MarvinTBaumann @ClimateDad77 On the other hand: realizing the truth in the big likelihood of a total crash soon frees up resources for also realizing what can be done today to help crash survivors. It's not the "end of the world" when tech-civilisation ends. People & rural communities can prepare but need⏩
Even renaissance societies relied on extraction, international trade and specialisation.
But rekindled societies after the collapse only have non-useful know-how at first, resulting in caveman-level of useful sophistication
– *and* again rely on fossil and wood fuel for even the most basic tasks.
I agree with Robert Harris' "Second Sleep" where only population outside metropolitan areas survive the famine and violence. How could we today help the survivors to rekindle a *sustainable* organisation?
Which cultures r likely to rekindle societal organisation beyond tribes? IMO non-urban S-America. How to bolster those future attempts today, paper knowledge caches? How to curate that knowledge for its likely usefulness? "When there's no pharma industry: medicine for dummies"...
The soft-sci troubadours sing about degrowth and doughnuts. Ballads of soft "transitions" to utopia. Risk awareness can't grow because these ballads are about a far-away time, not heeding the requirements of today's breeched planetary boundaries/budget.
I spent lotsa time deciphering the climate of the Pliocene or MIS11 and listening to ballads of "transitions" to utopia.
Assuming that this surely was what I need to know.
But neither physicists nor troubadours cover what would have raised my risk-awareness to reality-levels.
Intriguing.
A long drought prevailed AD 500ff in East Mediterranean & Arab Peninsula. Might've been in more regions but these I know of.
The 1st plague epidemic from rat fleas began in Kush/Egypt 541-549 and culled MENA & Europe.
Long droughts cause (death, war and) migration..
Did (the aftermath of) the drought fuel epidemic spread? Likely. Drought weakens states, workers flee, wars ensue, armies carry🪲everywhere.
Did Kush experience drought, too? Was the (onset of the) pandemic even caused by rats' or human behaviour that was influenced by drought?
What human or rat behaviour would trigger rat fleas to jump and infect humans?
I'd imagine you need lots of rats to increase the chances of a few infected fleas to jump. These rats need food and also be brave enough to run around in the immediate vicinity of humans.
Hm.
Intriguing is that Chile's citizens turned out to be the most risk-aware in this international Facebook survey. Of its 19mio citizens, 1094 took part in the survey and 60-70% know they'll be harmed personally by climate change.
This is the level of awareness we need!
The survey was conducted in Mar-Apr 2022, ~6 months after election and 1 month after inauguration of new left govt. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Chil…
I don't know anything of the talking points during their election. The only thing I know is, they now have a cli-sci as new EP secretary.
It might be that election campaigns were based on climate by all candidates and that this has in turn heightened the climate-awareness and the so important risk-awareness so much so that 60-70% rightly assume personal harm from climate change.
2 more awareness-factors could be