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@LazarusLong13
Sep 24, 2021 • 11 tweets • 5 min read • Read on X
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I'd like to invite you to go scilunking with me.

What is scilunking? It's spelunking within studies.

First cave we enter, Dr. Gurdasani's headlamp shows us that kids infect each other...and their parents.

This is a great thread! Read it, then come back for .... gold!
Her second tweet had this study. A genomic tracing study and confirmation of transmission within schools.

wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27…

But something in this cave caught the corner of my eye.

A furtive movement.

"most school-associated cases are acquired outside of school"
Hoeg.

A cold wind blows from the depths of the cave.

Dare we?

"Hey, I was promised GOLD, not HOEG!"

You are right, let's go deeper.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…

Our headlamps have found gold! 37% less transmission in school!

Where will you spend yours?

Wait a second though. There's something off about this gold.

It's fool's gold.
✅ Kids are often asymptomatic.
⚠️Absence of child to staff transmission does not mean transmission in school is uncommon. We'll come back to this.
⚠️ Reference #5 says asymptomatic attack rate is only .7% within household, so we are to believe kids don't transmit.
So, we move sideways into that cave, and we see what that study says.

jamanetwork.com/journals/jaman…

It says asymptomatic index cases are .7%.

Which means the first person found to be infected was asymptomatic.

Does not state if child or adult.
Were children actually addressed?

Yes. Data was limited, but a study was found indicating relatively high transmission from kids!

The exact opposite of what Hoeg tried to fool us into believing!

And thus, we have our fool's gold.
Remember I promised to come back to child to adult transmission?

About that. Hoeg's study was in Wood County, Wisconsin, September-November 2020.

Guess what they had in school?

Teachers and students wearing masks.

In rural Wood County, did they have a mask mandate? Yes.
Technically.

The state was under a mask mandate.

But the sheriff said there would be no enforcement.

waow.com/2020/07/31/lis…

So, in all likelihood, there was much less mask wearing in the community than the 92-97% mask wearing in the school.
And for sure there was no cohorting, etc. in the community.

But all of those NPI's were in the school.
And this is the real gold from this scilunking expedition:

NPI's work.

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Not sure what is going on with @HealthcareGlob1 - they sure seem to have it out for @NukitToBeSure.

They blocked me after I pointed out that they were incorrect. I could care less about being blocked.

I do care they did not address the issues I raised. 🧵
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1. FARUVC has been safely
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But that's not me saying that, but the studies. Two studies in well sealed rooms - about 5 parts per billion, 5 ppb.

If you are in a well sealed room, you would want that window cracked, anyway, right?

If not, and you are In summary, the two published measurements of far-UVC associated ozone in real-world settings, both around 5 ppb, are likely to be upper limits in terms of real-life far-UVC usage; this is both because of the far-UVC doses used in the studies, but also because both rooms were comparatively well sealed (respectively 0.4 and 1.4 ACH, see Table 1), whereas far-UVC will predominantly be used in public indoor spaces, which typically feature higher air-exchange rates.18 Overall it is reasonable to assume that far-UVC-associated ozone levels in real-life settings are extremely unlikely to exceed 1...
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Got HEPAs and or a #CorsiRosenthalBox and still have VOC's?

(New furniture, left over smoke damage, odor, etc)

Welcome to @TheFandelier Quick VOC BUILD!

Goal below.
Slap filter on counter.
Slap fan on filter.
Slap USB adapter on fan.
Go.

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This filter has more carbon than the others from this brand.

"The filter comes w/foam surrounds that make a seal w table and fan."

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the Odor & VOC carbon drum has 3 layers of carbon
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THE FAN.

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The CDC decides if you, the other patients, and your HCWs wear surgical masks, N95s, or no masks in hospitals. Where you go to get better, not sicker.

They obey the HICPAC, who voted for NO MASKS - based primarily on one study to justify it.

A 🧵 of an inadvertent giant lie? N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial
I suspect it's not actually a lie - except it kind of is. You read and decide.

The study is Radonovitch (2019). It was done from 2011-2015.

Back then, most everyone, including the authors 👇, thought respiratory viruses were primarily transmitted by actual large droplets. Respiratory viruses are primarily transmitted by large droplets. Because a fraction of respi- ratory viruses may be transmitted by aerosol, N95 respirators have been presumed to pro- vide better protection than medical masks against viral respiratory infections in health care settings.2 However, definitive evidence of
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Would N95s really be worth the extra cost, if that was true? (No.)

The study was a massive undertaking. It was done at 137 sites, spread over 7 healthcare systems, 5 states and Washington DC.

The investigators were blinded to who had N95s and who had surgical masks. year of participation. Study intervention sites included outpatient settings at the Children's Hospital Colorado (Aurora), Denver Health Medical Center (Denver, Colorado), Johns Hopkins Health System (Baltimore, Maryland), Michael E. DeBakey Veterans Affairs (VA) Medical Center (Houston, Texas), VA Eastern Colorado Healthcare System (Denver), Washington DC VA Medical Center, and VA New York Harbor Healthcare System (New York). Sample storage and data analysis sites
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Dec 14
There's a version of the "Had a bit of a health scare last night..." going around with laughing faces.

This is not that.

He went on to die the next day.

Short🧵 https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/montreal-man-dies-er-hospital-wait Montreal man, 39, dies from aneurysm after giving up on six-hour wait at ER 'Had a bit of a health scare last night, but thankfully it wasn’t a heart attack,' Adam Burgoyne said in a Dec. 5 post on social media. He died the next day Author of the article:Chris Lambie
He had no compassion for others, but I am not looking for compassion for him. Look, people can try the whole "you're so selfish!" routine to try to get me to wear a mask or stay home, but I couldn't possibly care less. Yes, I do care about my own life more than your 90 year old grandmother. Wish her all the best, but she's not my responsibility. 8:06 AM · Aug 31, 2023 · 3,517 Views Ⓐ @big_figgot · Aug 31, 2023 Wear all the masks you like, get 56 boosters this year and show the world how compassionate and virtuous you are by wishing death on everyone who doesn't think like you. Hiss and shriek at those who violate your 2m distancing bubble at the grocery s...
No, I just want to point out the failure of public health messaging here.

He goes after the Bangladesh study. A @big_figgot. Aug 31, 2023 ... The best they could do was the Bangladeshi mask study that showed only a 11% decrease in cases and only for people over 65 (IIRC - been a while since I read it). No difference in younger people. That was their best and they ran with it lying that it proved "masks work". 1 1 182 A @big_figgot. Aug 31, 2023 ... So EVEN IF we accept the results of the study which I find suspect for many reasons, it still doesn't justify the kinds of measures they were pushing.
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Dec 12
@naomirwolf - if you want to avoid inhaling shed vaccines, then you'd be wise to get an N95.

You might be tempted to ignore this thread, but I have 5 years of experience of helping people get into respirators that avoid the problems you have mentioned previously.

/1
To paraphrase you, wearing an N95 is better than a surgical or cloth masks for protection.

/2

You mentioned that wearing a respirator can have some problems.

And it can....but let me go to the original source and, more importantly, show solutions to those problems.

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@propublica - opening the window is not the only solution for formaldehyde.

In fact, formaldehyde is the most abundant VOC from fires. Like wildfires and wood burning stoves.

It is also found in tobacco smoke and automobile exhaust.

/1

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A good rule of thumb? Open the window and smell smoke or auto exhaust? Formaldehyde.

Also, windows are at the edges of a room.

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Portable Air Cleaners with activated carbon filters will remove formaldehyde.

Here is Smart Air providing a very easy to read demonstration of this.

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