Dear EC member who answered the asked question "how much is a little girl worth?" By saying "worth having insurance proceeds to pay her", please hear my heart -
If you are going to speak those words, first ask those little girls and boys what they care about the most:
Ask them if they value money, or the truth, more.
Ask them which one they would rather have.
They will tell you they want the truth. They will tell you the incredible cost they have already paid fighting for it.
Ask the little girls and boys which they would rather accomplish: getting insurance money, or getting to the root problems and fixing them so another child doesn't live through their hell.
They will pick saving a child every single time. They've dedicated their lives to it.
In fact, those girls and boys have already told you what they value most, and it isn't money, or power, or personal gain. They lost everything from their abuse, and lost it all over so much more, at the betrayal they experienced from the church. Money was never the motivator.
Before you answer that question, please realize those aren't just words to me, or to anyone in this place. When I spoke those words I saw the names and faces behind them.
I see the names of the little girls in the child abuse videos on Larry's computer. I gave those words the first time in court for them, at the sentencing hearing for the child porn.
"Viki - young girl - 10".
I cried for her in my kitchen. I wonder every day where they are.
I see the nine of us who faced Larry in court, one girl so young the prosecutor had to identify where she was touched using euphemisms "where you pee?"
I see the 165 who have impact statements, so many of them minors.
I see Kyle Stephens. She was missing her front teeth when Larry started abusing her. My 6 yr old is missing her front teeth right now too. And I remember.
I see children who weren't even born when I was abused
Those aren't just words.
They are the tears I've cried and the ones I've wiped away on so many.
They are the little girls lost in flashbacks I can't pull them from.
They are the terrified souls I've gone to the hospital to advocate for during breakdowns.
They are the phone calls I pick up.
"I slit my wrists. Can you call an ambulance?"
The ones who were found on bridges ready to jump. The ones who overdosed.
All the ones so desperate to escape what was done to them, and what so many keep doing to them.
These aren't words to me. They are people- Indescribably precious. They have fought so hard for the truth, so hard to spare others.
Don't dishonor them by suggesting they care more about money than the truth.
They've already told you over, and over, and over, what they value.
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The importance of waiving privilege is a question I get all the time from institutions in crisis - it's an issue in every case I work on.
Here's the bottom-line with waiver - risks and benefits:
The benefit of waiving is huge - because attorneys are usually involved in crafting the policies both for prevention and response, you simply cannot accurately diagnose problems without waiving privilege. You won't have access to all the information.
Not being able to accurately diagnose the problem increases your liability over the long-run because you will keep making mistakes, causing damage, and having responsibility for it. If you want to be a good fiduciary, stop thinking myopically.
This letter below is patently and blatantly false in it's legal statements, and any attorney who is making these claims, cannot be doing so unintentionally.
Attorneys were intentionally brought into every conversation about abuse and abuse reform. The same attorneys survivors have said for decades, were at the root of every coverup and mishandling.
This is widely known. That's not an accident.
If one truly desires the best counsel on abuse prevention and response, you bring in experts who specialize in the law and abuse policy. You do not bring in the very attorneys at the root of the issues, literally for decades - The very attorneys you were begged not to bring in.
And so are the 9 women and girls who allowed their cases to be charged and went through the hell of testifying. Remember them. Because of these women and girls and the only detective and prosecutor who fought for us, we got where we are today.
Remember the over 100 survivors who called the MSU PD to file reports, and the dozen or so who showed up over and over to MSU Board meetings and press interviews for two years.
Remember there are nine of us still acting as court appointed fiduciaries in the bankruptcy process.
July 2015 (FBI report) to Sept 2016 (my report): 15 months.
Over 100 girls and women abused.
Sept 2016 (my report) to Jan 2018 (Larry's sentencing): 16 months.
Put it side by side.
In the time it took the FBI to do nothing except wine and dine with Steve Penny and procure help with a job offer, MSU detectives Andrea Munford and Assistant AG @AngiePovilaitis managed to do the following:
Interview Larry within 24 hours of my coming forward and for the first time find the discrepancies in his story.
Start and follow up an incredibly in-depth Title IX process that immediately removed him from the exam room - something the FBI didn't manage in 15 months...
Let's start talking about the legislative change that the House and Senate are capable of, that would have a direct impact on abuse and abusive systems:
Dramatically rethink and reshape sovereign/qualified immunity.
There are almost no mechanisms to hold law enforcement accountable for corrupt or criminal behavior, much less bring restitution to the victims...
Because SI/QI functions as an almost complete bar to accessing the criminal and civil justice systems. Absent substantial revisions to this doctrine there is no external impetus to do the right thing. This has to change.
Five years gives a lot of clarity. But remember when you read the story that started it all, with today's 20/20 hindsight, what it was like back then...
From '97 to 2015 there were 17 reports about Larry's abuse to MSU. 4 law enforcement agencies/offices also received at least five reports and never investigated. A 5th agency tried to bury the story.
Countless coaches at USAG heard athletes describe the abuse. USAG and USOPC leaders knew at least 4 elites had described abuse.
No one cared, until 5 years ago today, when the @indystar told the truth.