I’ve seen some states, including Arkansas, posting open letters to the @SBCExecComm urging them to waive attorney client privilege. I have a few thoughts about this:
First, it seems to me that the SBC is unequivocally on the same page about standing against sexual abuse. Let’s put that out there. I don’t know of a single Southern baptist that isn’t against abuse.
Secondly, just because a brother or sister is against waiving attorney client privilege does NOT mean they are pro abuse or even anti baptist polity btw. We need to be more charitable there.
Thirdly, I don’t know what everyone on the EC has done or hasn’t done. No one has even really alleged what they have done, if I’m understanding correctly, except say something was an affair when some don’t agree it was an affair?
And this is what’s frustrating for me to understand. What is it we are saying the EC has done? And the only way we can really know is if they waive ACP? Seems awfully like a witch hunt, which I do not like for sure.
Again, all southern Baptists should be for truth and transparency and integrity. And if things have been not handled with integrity there should be accountability. Probably it’s time for Ronnie Floyd to step down.
But here’s the reality about these open letters:
Where have they been the last few years? When we *knew* NAMB was planting churches against BFM? When we *knew* David Uth had an abysmal lineup for 2020 pastors Conf? When we *knew* Church at the Glades promoted sensuality?
Where were the open letters when the ERLC jumped into the 2021 Pastor’s race by dropping revenge leaks?
What about this summer when we knew @EdLitton plagiarized and lied?
You can’t be a pastor who ignores all these things WE KNOW and then try to stand for truth and integrity about these things we don’t know.
I’m grateful southern Baptists are standing against abuse. But I’m afraid for many it’s just the popular thing to do right bow.
It’s a lot less popular to try and maintain the same call for integrity and truth across the board.
I’m afraid the rot is deep. And we need more men willing to stand in the gap. Even when it’s unpopular to do so.
Didn’t see a lot of letters while we flirt with CRT in our seminaries, or have entities publicly support an SBC presidential candidate, or when the ERLC fails to stand with faithful pastors like MacArthur or James Coates.
I am grateful for men willing to stand up against abuse. But If it’s only because of political expediency then it’s shameful. And if one can’t publicly stand against any other issue but the popular ones, it’s cowardice.
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Ok. I just finished the @EdLitton interview from @SBCthisWeek. The following are some initial thoughts. I don't feel like writing a blog today, so you'll have to deal with a twitter thread.
Here we go:
1. @Jonathan_Howe had an opportunity on behalf of southern Baptists to ask gracious and yet forthright and pointed questions to Pastor Ed. What about the horse joke, driver's ed, Augustine comment - what about these minute details here? How did that play into the "research"?
I don't know Jonathan. But he failed here in a big way. He did not serve Pastor Ed, southern baptists, or the "watching world" helpfully by glossing over these issues.
I am thankful for people thinking through these issues. What @howertonjosh does not address is:
1. Litton is not a church planter. He’s a mega church pastor. His most important tasks are prayer and ministry of the Word. What’s he doing with all his time?
2. This isn’t Litton borrowing a bullet for his gun. It’s him showing JD’s shooting range target score as if he’s the one that shot it.
3. This didn’t happen one time. There are 4 documented cases.
4. This isn’t borrowing thoughts or ideas but repeated verbatim verbiage.
5. Teaching in school and preaching are simply not analogous here. Poll any southern baptist congregation and ask if they think they are hearing their pastor’s sermon or him preaching someone else’s on Sunday morning?
Regeneration is a total change. It’s not a change into perfection of course. But it frees our will, changes our heart, gives us a new nature,
new affections, new desires. WE ARE MADE ALIVE!!! (Eph 2:5)
Before regeneration we are the walking dead. Loving sin. Haters of God. Loving our own self. We think the world revolves around us. We are slaves to our passions. We follow Satan. We chase after the world.
BUT GOD.
When God makes us alive we go from hating God to loving Him. We love the Scriptures. We love the Church. We love to pray.
If these are not true of a person, that person has not been made alive.
A defining issue for #SBC21 will be this: Can women, in *any* context, preach to men - with preaching defined as expositing a text of Scripture with "logic on fire" (DMLJ)?
2/ Maybe we can frame the question a little better but it needs to be asked to entity heads and perhaps written up in a resolution. And we probably need to affix it to the BFM but that will take two meetings.
3/ Are there more important theological issues than women preaching to men? Yes, of course. But in the SBC this is an important dividing line because it reveals differences about gender roles, sufficiency of Scripture, ecclesiology, and even in some cases CRT...
I’m disappointed. My wife graciously didn’t tell me about these till tonight. A few things:
1. I did not twist anything. I quote tweeted facts. Yes, @JackiCKing preached to a men and women at @CriswellCollege. This is indisputable.
2. Does this make Jacki not a Christian or Josh? Of course not. Does it make them out of bounds of the BFM 2000? Yes of course it does. Why not just say “Hey, this was wrong. I’m sorry.” I don’t get it.
3. I really don’t know what Dr. Zeb @ZebBalentine means.
4. If you’d like to see my brand, it’s posted below. It’s been quite a physical, emotional, and financial investment to build it. But worth it times one million.
It is going to be a volatile few months leading up to the SBC meeting in Nashville. And I’m saddened. I’m saddened as look at the SBC landscape and I see men lining up on a different side than me that I once greatly admired and respected.
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I’m saddened at seemingly well meaning brothers and sisters who have completely capitulated on women’s roles in the church and have allowed and promoted the preaching of women and even approved of women serving as pastors as long as it’s not a “lead pastor”
I’m saddened that our SBC President canceled church for so long in 2020. And that many in the SBC do not seem to understand and appreciate the essentialness of the local church and it’s nature: regenerate church membership, biblical worship, etc.