At lunch today and also on Thursday, Dems discussed changes to rules to let debt ceiling hike advance by simple majority. Manchin and Sinema didn’t address caucus. Manchin told me later: “We're not going to default.” How it ends up remains to be seen. cnn.com/2021/10/05/pol…
Democrats are roundly opposed to using reconcilation to raise the debt ceiling, even as Manchin has spoken in favor of it. And there was discussion about Biden using 14th Amendment to raise debt ceiling, an issue untested in court. w/@FoxReports
GOP saying if Dems do reconcilation, they would let the process move quicker. “I think there are ways you could expedite the reconciliation and do it at 51 under that procedure. They say it’s too unwieldy, takes too much time. Well, that can always be addressed though agreement”
Manchin reiterates his support for Hyde in bill. And as Dems now discuss a carveout from filibuster to raise debt ceiling, he said about that: “Let the leaders work it out. They should work it out, they both know what this country needs and we should take care of our country”
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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer just told me “can’t do it” when asked if the budget reconcilation process is on the table to raise the debt ceiling by the Oct. 18 deadline.
“Reconcilation is very risky, risking default and risking downgrade. Can’t do it,” he said
Here are the options for raising debt limit: •An agreement to set the vote to suspend debt limit at a 51-vote threshold, but Republicans are objecting to that. (Any one senator can force a 60-vote threshold)
•Getting 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. But that would require 10 GOP votes, which isn’t happening
•Democrats using nuclear option to change filibuster rules to allow debt ceiling hike to advance with 51 votes. Manchin rejects this, so Dems don’t have the votes to do it
Manchin just told me that Hyde Amendment is a “red line” in talks over social safety net expansion. Has little appetite to go over $1.5T. And suggests openness to reconcilation to raise the debt limit, which Dem leaders resist
Asked about Dem leaders ruling out using reconcilation to raise the debt ceiling, Manchin said: “Well they shouldn’t rule out anything - we just can’t let the debt ceiling lapse.”
But he pushed back on the idea of gutting the filibuster to do that. “Forget the filibuster, Ok? We can prevent default, we really can prevent it. And there’s a way to do that, and there’s a couple other tools we have that we can use.”
Sanders: “It is an absurd way to do business, to be negotiating a multi trillion dollar bill a few minutes before a major vote with virtually nobody knowing what's going on. That's unacceptable.”
“And I think what has got to happen is that tonight, the bipartisan infrastructure bill must be defeated. And we can the. sit down and work out a way to pass both pieces of legislation.”
Moderate Democrats met with House Dem leaders in Pelosi's office for an hour and 15 minutes, and afterward they were was high expectation the vote on the Senate's infrastructure bill would still occur on Monday.
"I'm bringing the bill to the floor on Monday," Hoyer told us
Hoyer also told me Pelosi is "working towards" getting the party's reconciliation bill on the floor by next week, even as there are major differences within their party to resolve. "Both bills are going to pass," he said confidently.
"I'm expecting a vote on Monday, yeah," said Rep. Ed Case, a Blue Dog Democrat, said of the infrastructure bill. Asked about the reconciliation bill, Case said: "We're just trying to keep a lot of trains on the same track," Case said. "That's what's our commitment is to do.”
Asked Bennie Thompson, chairman of Jan. 6 panel, how they'd handle the four Trump allies who have been subpoenaed -- if they don't comply
"Criminal contempt is on the table," Thompson said. "And if it comes to that, there will be no reluctance at all on the committee to do that"
“Oh absolutely,” Thompson said when asked if there would be more subpoenas for Trump officials. He also said they’ve discussed whether to call in Bill Barr.
“We think those four individuals have clear information as to what Donald Trump was doing that day,” Thompson said of Meadows, Patel, Scavino, Bannon.
House Budget plans to meet Friday or Saturday to take up the party’s massive $3.5 trillion economic package. It is NOT the final deal bc there is no deal yet as negotiations within the party intensify.
“Effectively the markup is more procedural than substantive,” Yarmuth said.
The move is an attempt by House Dem leaders to show momentum on the larger bill in a bid to convince progressives to vote for the Senate’s infrastructure plan on Monday after they’ve threatened to sink it over their concerns that the larger plan will be killed by moderates
The panel’s vote will be on the legislation that has been approved by 13 House committees. The committee will bring those individual pieces together and approve it, readying it for eventual floor action.