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Oct 17, 2021 24 tweets 12 min read Read on X
This is a thread addressing Chinese military technology innovation today, it's parallels with Imperial Japan in the Mid-1930's to early 1940's period, & the "Great Supply Chain Collapse."

They are related.
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The Chinese took two existing technologies, the Fractional Orbital Bombardment System (FOBS) and the Hypersonic Glide Vehicle (HGV) & kit bashed them together into a 1st strike nuclear weapon that evades US ICBM trajectory early warning radar coverage.
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One can argue about the usefulness of this kit bash.

The one thing you cannot ignore is that it's a highly innovative weapon system design aimed like a laser at a decades old weakness.

A weakness the Chinese have been aware of for its entire existence, via @TheDEWLine
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A PLARF Long March 2C expendable launcher was used to launch the 3-4 ton FOBS payload with a HGV for reentry vehicle(RV). The DF-ZF from the DF-17 system is the likely candidate RV.
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The Long March 2C is a proven legacy design from the 1980s, like the LGM-25C Titan II and Soviet R-36.

It is fueled with hypergolic N2O4 / UDMH propellants & capable of lifting almost 4 tons to LEO. It benefitted from the 1998 Loral missile scandal
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One of the benefits, if you can call it that, of being a retired tail end Boomer/early Gen X'er military procurement official means I know where the bodies are buried...because I helped to bury them.

Living Loral's "ITAR Gift" to DoD is a case in point
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Like most men of my generation, I have the WW2 history bug. Unlike most, I was interested in how the War & Navy Dept. bought weapons in lieu of war gear "Top Trumps," because day job.

Doing this while training other in the admin. of ITAR w/in DoD gave me unique perspectives.
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I also looked at how other WW2 major powers, particularly the Japanese, developed their weapons.

I laid out Imperial Japan's national technological style in a July 2021 @WW2TV stream on MacArthur's Secret Radar Hunters, Section 22. See Photo & link
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The Japanese had a "challenger technological style" I've seen echoed in Soviet/Russian & now Chinese military development.

US, by contrast, always invested more thought into both usability and maintainability of its weapons, vice UK or Germany tech.

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There are usually two prices for the "US Style of Design."

1. It takes longer to get out there.
2. It costs more & competitors quickly copy it with cheap knock off's.

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If you have a smart US management. You can win using that style via better service & by continually improving design -- See IPad & early IPhone

That smartness has been lacking the last couple of decades as marketing hype displaced good engineering via MBA "Off-shoring."
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This is a highly dangerous place for the USA to be in as China has made in the late 20-teens the kind of innovative leap the Imperial Japanese 1935(+) did via a class of truly innovative world class engineers.

Yamato, A6M Zero & I-400 sub-carriers are historical examples.
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While the PLARF FOBS with HGV RV is the current events example of China "Post-Challenger/Peer Competitor" national technological style, arriving.

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I've talked about this recent Chinese engineering leap recently on Twitter regards NORINCO's comprehensive family of unmanned ground vehicles.

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I've also mentioned a few months ago "why" the US Defense industrial base lacks the ability to systems engineer their way out of a paper bag, let alone a ship design, namely the death by corruption of Mil-STD-499.

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See:
If you search Twitter with the term "Mil-STD-499" you'll find my previous rant threads.

This blog post is where you see why & how "Systems Engineering" by DoD contractors died.

The 737 MAX and the Death of MIL-STD-499A SYSTEM ENGINEERING MANAGEMENT
chicagoboyz.net/archives/59466…

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Unlike 1941-1945, the now 'Innovative Peer Level' Chinese military industrial base is facing off against a decayed Western Military Industrial base that has had its system engineering hollowed out by political corruption and "Off-shoring."
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This isn't to say Systems Engineering has completely disappeared from the West.

The Israeli Iron Dome anti-rocket system has some of the best systems engineering on the planet.

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Systems engineering that is so elegant that it includes considerations of digital selectivity and the economic cost avoidance for Israeli policy makers in its architecture.

It beats Islamist suicide terrorism with superior economic cost accounting.

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The reason that Israel has such a high level of systems engineering is their decades long industrial policy of "On-shoring" it defense industrial base to meet local existential threats, AKA the 2006 Lebanon War & 2008-2009 Operation Cast Lead rocket attacks.
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Space X is another example of high levels of systems engineering via both "in-sourcing" & "On-shoring."

Roughly 70% of every Space X rocket or capsule is mfg by Space X internally.

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Short, internal, supply chains with 3D/AM make systems engineering with swift, iterative, innovation much easier.

It also avoids the worst effects of the "Great Supply Chain Collapse" now washing over the "off-shore supplier" world economy.

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The 21st Century Chinses challenge for US economic, national security & foreign policy calls for on-shoring, in-sourcing, & shortening supply chains with 3D/AM.

That is, returning to the traditional US technological style.
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Making this reality will the politics of the post "Great Supply Chain Collapse" western world.

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Soviet industrial legacy🧵
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This 2013 time stamped Jon Parshall presentation on WW2 US vs German Vs Soviet tank industries underlines this Soviet reality

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Drone threat 🧵
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Via a question to @grok of Cities of 500K(+) in OWA Drone range:

"Distances are approximate great-circle (straight-line/air) from Havana or central Cuba; actual drone paths could vary due to routing, wind, altitude, & launch site (e.g., closer to Florida from western Cuba)
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All listed cities are well under 2,700 km.Florida and Southeast (easiest reach)

Miami, FL (~370 km / 230 miles) — Well within range.

Jacksonville, FL (~1,000–1,100 km) — Within range.

Tampa/St. Petersburg area (metro >500k in cities/urban) — ~400–500 km.

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One which will in 3 months be utterly successful in driving out 90%(+)...

N.I. "Troubles Pogrom"🧵
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...of the migrants the UK government has placed there. Then Liverpool will be next.

The UK government utterly failed to stop mutual Catholic/Protestant pogroms in the late 1960's early 1970's troubles.  When half N. Irish population was nominally...

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The problem with this analysis is it leaves out the drone & power projection capabilities of the PLA and Taiwan's highly vulnerable off shore islands.

PLA & PLAN parachute, heliborne & marine landing forces can take all of those small islands as a coup de main for drone, SAM & MLRS bases.
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The ability of Taiwan to operate it's HIMARS is tied directly to it's ability to deny China drone air superiority inside Taiwanese air space.

China can throw 1 million OWA drones to suppress Taiwanese air defenses to take those off shore islands.

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The PLA holding the Pescadores, Green and Orchard islands as launch platforms for HQ-9 SAM's, heavy MLRS rockets and Hornet class truck hunting drones means it can overwatch & reduce Taiwanese beach defenses, all while denying air space to ROCAF fighters.

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Crimea is a de facto island fed by road and rail bridges Ukraine can now destroy at will, and Russia cannot stop.

And Ukraine is destroying those bridges.

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Russia's air defense has suffered a nearly complete "Lanchester Square Collapse" proximate with the Ukrainian mass deployment of both 150 km range AI truck hunting drones and bridge busting FP-2 OWA drones.

Map H/T United24media
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Any route Russian trucks take to Crimea will result in parking lots near replacement pontoon bridging for both those kinds of drones to exploit.

"Trucks that mass together...die together.

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