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AFTERNOON THREAD, DAY 1 OF THE "PATRIOT DOUBLEDOWN"

Morning thread below, although I joined it late -- I caught only part of Ron Watkins' speech.

Anyway, this hunky chunky boi is playing the Star-Spangled Banner on electric geeee-tar, so let's roll!

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Graphic design is their passion over at the QAnon conference -- though to be fair, this is a still from a video. Image
More visual material from what, according to Wendy Rogers, can't POSSIBLY be a QAnon conference.

What even IS QAnon? Image
This video was produced by Eye Drop Media, which is the slickest QAnon propaganda outlet out there -- although it's not above plagiarizing and repurposing material. Image
OK, I had to step away for RL.

I came back to hear this gentleman explaining how he became a social-media star in the MAGA right.

This speech sounds VERY familiar. I'm about 90% sure he gave almost exactly the same speech at the *first* convention QAnon John put on. Image
"How many people here," he asks, "have THOUGHT about making a video about something you're passionate about, but you didn't post it?"

"Wow," he says. Beat, beat. "So you're being censored. You're already being censored."

THAT'S NOT WHAT CENSORSHIP -- 🤯
He tells the audience that THEY might not be on all four major social media platforms, but "you know who is? Liberals. The left."

Again, fun reminder: Twitter's internal research shows that conservative voices are amplified *considerably* more than liberal ones. As for FB...
well, you know what FB is like. If you don't: conservative content FAR outstrips liberal content there, too, and its algorithms (and group recommendations, in particular) played a key part in radicalizing conservative normies during the Trump years.
"Evil wins," he says, "when good people do nothing. I'm about doing something.... Donald J. Trump, the greatest President in history, just started his own social-media platform."

THAT gets cheers and applause.
He says they should show big tech it needs conservatives more than conservatives need big tech.

More cheers and applause, but still fairly scattered.

I just... CANNOT emphasize enough how much quieter this crowd is than the 1st QAnon conference's was. There can't be many folks.
"How many people here," he asks, "believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life? Look around. Almost every hand went up."

Not a surprise! Except to him:
"I travel around the country... to political events. The number-one thing that continues to blow my mind is how many people are believers."
From this he segues to talk of a "60,000-plus-person illegal immigrant carivan.... This is planned."

Apparently, "It's exactly what Joe Biden wants. It's what George Soros wants."

Dude, white-nationalist talking points are lies & the people who spew them are not your friends. Image
HOW IS THIS PRESENTATION STILL GOING ON??

Now he's on to "Joe [Biden] can't remember what he ate for breakfast" and is claiming that Biden has Alzheimer's.

"I don't like to pick on him because of these issues," lies the speaker. Image
If you didn't want to talk about it you could very easily have just... not talked about it.

It isn't rocket science.
He predicts that his overwhelmingly white audience will be the "property of the government" in "ships, shackles and chains for generations to come."

"Understand, as well, that what we're seeing unfold at the local level, they've been planning for decades." Image
Aaaand he's claiming that "pornographic sex ed for kids" is the result of "leftist progressives -- Marxists!" on school boards, who have patiently waited DECADES to...

man, this just fucking enrages me.

These are the same lies conservatives have been spewing FOR DECADES.
Same lies, different material that they call "pornographic." And he's up here going "THIS IS A NEW THING"

It's not. It's the same outrage cycle EVERYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE has been through multiple times without ever noticing that *it's fake every damn time.*
He's saying that when you're out on social media trying to spread red pills, "don't listen to the naysayers. Don't even LOOK at the comments, especially early on from your family and friends."
"As much as I want Donald Trump back in the White House, as much as we all want him back in the White House... we need a prayerful repentance."

Only when you love God enough will He send His vicar on Earth, Donald J Trump, back to the White House, I guess.
He's citing a favorite evangelical verse about "if My people will humble themselves and pray, I will bless the land."

More-sophisticated evangelicals are often annoyed by how popular that verse is, bc -- in context -- it is explicitly about Israel and not applicable to America.
But white evangelical Christianity isn't REALLY about careful, contextual readings of the Bible.

It's American civic religion + conservatism + racism + anti-democratic sentiments (that is, a belief in the overriding right of white conservative Christians to throw out...
any electoral results they don't like, provided those results include LESS-American voters, like liberals and blacks).

It's about the idea that ONLY white evangelical Christians, and whoever else allies with them ideologically, are Real Americans™.
THAT'S the heart of the faith -- not close, careful readings of the Bible. 🤷‍♂️
How long is this speech going to GO? He was giving a prayer like five minutes ago! P sure that was supposed to be a CLOSING prayer.
THERE he goes. "God bless you guys, thank you so so much, have a GREAT rest of your time here."

He exits and the hype man shakes his hand.

Now's a good time to mention: OK, you see how there are a bunch of people up front now, in this screenshot? Image
So, when he was announcing lunch, the hype man went, "DO NOT sit in the red chairs. Those are going to be taken away in the very near future."

My personal hypothesis: the red chairs were farther back in the room, and were yoinked to make the audience concentrate in a small area.
This would produce better visuals like, e.g., visible clapping people and might produce louder (or louder-SEEMING) cheers and applause, coming from a more compact area.

Or maybe I'm totally wrong about why they did it! But I THINK they know the visuals were... unimpressive.
Anyway, while I was outlining my SUPER compelling chair-related conspiracy theory, I kiiiinda missed the next speaker's name.

🙃

But she's compelling! Thickly accented, yes, but compelling. Very animated. I actually ENJOY listening to her. Image
Hey, she rescued me with a copy of her book!

She is-- oh my God, she's Stella Immanuel?

Dr. Demon Seed, MD herself?????????? Image
"When you are willing to perish," says Dr. Immanuel, "THAT'S when the Lord [takes?] you to the next level."

Brackets bc I'm not 1,000% sure she said "takes" but I can't think of what else the word would be.
Anyway, can't emphasize enough how much more engaging Dr. Immanuel is than the other speakers so far today.

BUT there's a problem. The audio is so quiet right now that I can't make out what she's saying. Partly an accent problem, too, but MOSTLY a volume problem.
But I THINK she was just asking a hypothetical person:

Why are you being so stubborn that you want to get vaccinated even though you know you might die?

So... that's the kind of discourse we're all missing out on.
I should add that when she gets cheers and applause, it's notably louder than it was for other speakers.

Here she is basking in the audience's approval (and frankly, I would too! I would be SUPER SMUG that they loved me more than they loved the other speakers). Image
I just heard the following words in rapid succession:

"Cell towers" and "merge machine and human."

I am SO MAD that the audio isn't louder and her accent isn't slightly less thick, bc I want to know about my cybernetic future! I do!!!
BREAKING NEWS FROM DR. STELLA IMMANUEL:

"The Devil has power to give BREATH to the image of the Beast!"

It is VERY IMPORTANT that you understand this, apparently. Image
I can understand almost none of what she says BUT I honestly don't care.

She's much more fun to listen to than people I CAN understand but who have nothing of interest to say.

Stella Immanuel >>>>>>>>>> Ron Watkins, and you can quote me.
She's talking about Genesis 6 and giants. I REALLY want a captioned version of this so I can follow it better.
"End of the story: Jesus wins," she says.

BUT IT'S NOT THE END. SHE'S STILL TALKING.

No! Stop-- why -- STOP ON YOUR APPLAUSE LINE AND WALK OFF.

Why do none of these speakers just do it???????
I just wanna point out it was SEVEN MINUTES AGO she was at "end of the story," and apparently that was, AT BEST, the middle.
This user raises a good point.

And also explains why Dr. Immanuel has been singing for the past minute or so.

The hype man gives Dr. Immanuel a hug and announces that it's time for Q&A.

First question involves ivermectin.

Dr. Immanuel is a fan, to my EXTREME surprise. Image
2nd question, I didn't catch but seems to have been about "when are you gonna open your own practice?" Which... she already has.

3rd question: I'm from Canada, blah blah ivermectin.

In response, she uses a pill bottle that may or may not contain the sacred substance itself: Image
4th question: "Has anyone from the media apologized to you?"

FOR WHAT? She *is* a crank.
The best part about this Q&A is that she has a bottle of maybe-ivermectin, and it's sharing the podium with her. Image
The next speaker is former Milwaukee sherriff (and Fox News talking head) David Clarke. Image
He brought a little printed-out constitution!

Always a popular prop at these events, even as they support the *end* of our constitutional system of government & the installation of Trump as an unelected dictator.

God, these people are loathsome.
Sorry for the lack of updates on Clarke -- I've been dealing with RL stuff and will have to bow out for the rest of the day.

@az_rww and @2021_Karma should have you covered, though. Enjoy their feeds!
@az_rww @2021_Karma UPDATE: I'm back.

QAnon influencer Juan O Savin, who's kept his anonymity until now, has done a big face reveal...

but the livestream cut out. Fortunately, a friend pointed me to a Twitch stream.

So I can watch as he makes up outrageous, upsetting BS about sex trafficking.
Juan's whole deal is that he has secret but definitely real sources.

I'll let you know if he reveals any of them, but so far he's been saying things like "I was talking to some doctors the other day, and they said..."
Juan O Savin: "They're trying to make it look like you guys, and others like you, are civil war guys..."

Insurrection denialists are pieces of shit. Everyone knew what January 6th was and why those people stormed the Capitol: to stop the count. They did it for Trump.
"Nothing's happening? LOTS is happening," says Juan O Savin, as nothing continues to happen.

"You think nothin's happening?" The white hats are "erasing debts" and defending Taiwan.

"Erasing debts"=a shout-out to a variety of NESARA-esque scams floating around the Q-o-sphere...
where believers are told that the quantum financial system (or whatever) is coming ANY DAY now and their debts will be forgiven AND ALSO they'll get really rich if they follow the guru's advice, which is available for a shockingly reasonable price.
So, uh

Juan is making fun of people who don’t understand what’s happening, with a goofy voice, but like

What’s up with the dress here? I DON’T understand what’s happening. Did I miss an explanation of why there’s just… a dress on a stand on this stage???? Image
He refers to the Q drops in the same goofy, mocking-the-unbelievers voice, saying something to the effect of “I don’t understand what these almost 5,000 messages mean.”

TBH it’s 100% reasonable for a non-specialist to bounce off the Q drops! They’re cryptic, dense & meme-filled.
“Our enemy is pretty sophisticated,” says Juan O Savin.

Do *I* count as part of the enemy? Because two days ago, I wore my shirt inside-out without realizing it ‘til 12:45.
The audience is very engaged with him, even though he’s not much of a speaker. I think his popularity and mystique is really carrying him.

Maybe *I* should develop a mystique. OK, step one: make sure everyone forgets what I said about the shirt
“We have someone in the middle of the biggest war in the history of Planet Earth,” says Juan O Savin, who STILL will not reveal any of his definitely real sources.

I’ll let you know if it comes up in the Q&A, I guess.

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It’s a 100% fair summary.
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One thing I wish I’d conveyed in my interview:

QAnon, in the sense of “people who specifically believe that Q was legit,” /is/ on the decline.

But it’s NOT a spent force.
Q influencers and their followers are still a strong messaging system.

They’re still key boosters of

* election denialism

* bullshit treatments for COVID

* anti-trans sentiment (in particular, the “transvestigator” wing of anti-trans hatred is HEAVILY pilled)
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“Think mirror” is a QAnon slogan often used in baking — that is, the search for hidden meaning in an image or text.

Ariel didn’t use the slogan in this post, but here he makes a direct & simple use of the *core concept* to suggest that the X app is somehow linked to Freemasonry: Image
There /are/ less direct, less simple uses of “think mirror” — lots of them.

It’s a key part of how the “Q Clock” works, for instance (image credit: Travis View, AFAIK). Image
It can also be used to explain away problems that arise when one of the movement’s heroes says or does something that /completely contradicts/ core QAnon beliefs.

No problem! That was a performance for the normies.

Real anons know to think mirror.
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Yeah, QAnon’s two best innovations were:

1) it had a hero and
2) it had a solution to the problem of the Cabal — namely the Storm.

This was a short, sharp spasm of violence that would purge all the political & cultural elites anons hated, & then Trump would lead a golden age.
This is why QAnon is an apocalyptic-millenarian movement, not just a conspiracy theory.

BUT… the thing is… the anons themselves *are* 100% conspiracy theorists.
They have all the social habits and pathologies of conspiracy theorist communities.

This includes the dynamic Poker mentioned above — the impulse to tear people down & the need to find fresh new enemies.
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This is a REALLY cool jumping-off point to discuss how INCREDIBLY flexible QAnon orthodoxy is.

And it’s not just flexible because, in the post-Q era (or the Biden Admin or whatever), a lot of anons place less value on the drops.

This is a claim you could’ve seen in 2020! So: 🧵
One of QAnon’s favorite thought-terminating cliches is “disinformation is necessary.” This is a GREAT way of blunting people’s discomfort when Q’s predictions — like arrests — don’t come true.

But it also has *big* implications *how the movement relates to Q drops.*
Because if Q /could/ be lying about any one particular drop, then suddenly none of the drops are actually binding on believers.

You can ignore anything that doesn’t match your own personal vibe. ANYTHING.

Take the whole JFK Junior idea.
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