Everyone agrees it's *very* dangerous -- and *very* bad for democracy -- to have GOP electeds screaming "fraud!" every time they lose an election, then trying to install Stop the Steal types to *run* the next round of elections.
But how can we impose *consequences*? My take: 1/9
* Pass laws -- at the federal and state levels -- making it a crime for an officeholder or political candidate to say that an upcoming or just-completed election was fraudulent, *unless* a court finds it really was fraudulent. Trials would be super-expedited; penalties, 5-10 yrs.
This, of course, would run into 1st Amendment issues right away. But the Constitution is not a suicide pact, and the threat is grave.
Also: y'know how gov't employees don't have unrestricted free speech in all circumstances (& can't perform certain political activities AT ALL)?
I generally stay out of The Discourse™, but a bunch of antifascist accounts have been big mad at my friend Amanda today, on the grounds that she was infiltrating fascist movements *in the wrong way.*
I've read the critiques.
There is a 0% chance they'd say this about a man.
And what are the giveaways? The critiques are both vague *and* unsupported by facts. One account, e.g., claimed that REAL infiltrators coordinate with researchers -- which Amanda did; I can personally attest to that -- and local antifascists (she did that too!).
So... it's weird to make those claims, especially without trying to find out the truth! It's...
It's almost as if they're looking at a woman getting lots of publicity for doing the same kind of work *they* do, and going: "What? What? How DARE *she* be more visible than *me?*"
Now speaking is Gen. Thomas MacInenery (Ret), who — like Flynn — has taken a sharply fascist & conspiracist turn.
The topic of his speech: “Are we in the start of World War III or Cold War II?”
His main points:
COVID-19 is Chinese biological warfare (false)
China hacked the 2020 election (false)
“We have a totalitarian government” (extremely false)
He suggests that after “OBiden” took over, we stabbed Afghanistan in the back on purpose to let the Taliban take over
LAST TIME I will nag you: okay, now they’ve actually figured out how to get the damn thing running. So we’re getting right into the meat of how they found GhostEzra, Telegram’s most followed pro-Hitler voice.
I think it's fair to say that November 3rd -- the date of Q's first real deadline, when Podesta was supposed to be indicted and Trump was supposed to send the "storm is upon us" tweet -- is also the day that QAnon really EXPLODED on /pol/.
It’s *amazing* how much prepper talk involves guns, gold, and goods & how little involves questions like:
“what’s the *most* hygienic, least water-contaminating place to poop if the sewer system breaks down?”
“How will I get medication for my loved ones w/no supply chain?”
Access to meds would be an especially acute problem after society collapsed; virtually everyone w/conditions that are lethal if untreated would die (often horribly, in front of their families).
That’s diabetes and cancer and a whole host of other conditions. But there’s more!
Lack of clean drinking water would also be a HUGE killer.
Between that and the collapse of medical care, you’d have a lot of people — especially children and infants — dying in agony from waterborne illnesses, which typically kill their victims via diarrhea-induced dehydration.
In light of Ron Watkins' announcement that he's running for Congress, there are a LOT of folks -- including analysts I like and respect -- saying he's Q.
I'm not so sure! Ron as *sole author* of the Q drops -- even from January 2018 forward -- seems almost impossible.
The photos above are a comparison of times we *know* Q was behind a keyboard -- because they were interacting with other users in 8chan or 8kun threads -- and Ron's tweets (he was EXTREMELY online, though who among us isn't?).
The big gaps are *probably* when each author sleeps.
Ron appears to be sleeping during the late morning to mid-afternoon, Pacific time.
Q appears to be sleeping midnight-ish to 8-ish, Pacific time.
And Q is often active during Ron's (most likely) sleep schedule.
So this strongly suggests Ron and Q are different people, BUT...
One of Q's early claims was that John McCain was faking his medical problems, for Reasons™: "What if John M's surgery was fake? Why would this occur?" wrote Q in drop 18, during their first thread that *really* caught on.
This claim resonated with a few anons, but... *why?*
One thing to remember is that 4chan's /pol/ board was both rabidly pro-Trump and wildly conspiratorial.
Trump's enemies were its enemies, and Trump's antipathy towards McCain is well documented. Also, McCain had recently been the critical vote to scuttle Obamacare repeal...
So anons were *extra*-mad at him.
When you add in the VERY conspiracy-friendly nature of 4/pol/, you start getting into... how shall I put it... the natural consequences of thinking everything's a false flag:
your brain falls the fuck outta your head bc you're so credulous.
They also (correctly, IMO) talked about the pleasure inherent in being able to vent one’s spleen on a captive audience & get applause for even the most lunatic lines.
We focus mostly on the intimidation side of why these people go to scream at schoolboards — that they…
very much *want* their desires enacted and they’re willing to intimidate officials to make it happen; that it advances their authoritarian worldview to, if they lose elections, simply strongarm the victors into doing what they want ANYWAY; etc etc.
UPDATE ON AMERICA’S LARGEST PROTESTANT DENOMINATION:
After a prominent Southern Baptist lost his position for *very* cruel treatment of sex-abuse survivors, his supporters formed the “Conservative Baptist Network” & are busily obstructing efforts at investigation & reform. 1/5
The amazing thing is: the investigation they’re stalling isn’t into Paige Patterson — the good ol’ boy whose defenders formed the CBN.
It’s a much more general, broad-scope investigation that’s supposed to yield info
& recommendations re: why abuse survivors are ill-treated.
Hint: it’s patriarchy — the welfare & reputations of male sex abusers (especially if they have status within the denomination, say as pastors) is, again and again, shown to be more important than the health and safety of their victims.
BEHOLD, A NEW LOST DROP -- our 14th! This one was discovered by @kunstderfuge1.
And THIS one strongly suggests Q was using Tor! How? More on that in a moment, but first: what's the lost drop, and what is Tor?
As for the lost drop, it's the first post in the image below. 1/8
Let's take a moment to establish context. This post was made right when 8kun was taking its first baby steps towards MAYBE sorta being online again, after a 3-month absence. (If you don't know the story, feel free to ask for details.)
Very few people could access it.
So the canonical drop -- #3571 -- was Q's first post after the downtime.
How do we know they're by the same person? First, because /BAS_Test/1 and /2 seem pretty thematically consistent! Almost like Q just forgot to enter their tripcode the first time around. But second...
Once upon a time someone asked me: before aggregators -- heck, before Q started using a tripcode -- how did anons keep track of Q's claims?
They did it by bodging together, slowly and laboriously, images that they THOUGHT contained all of Q's posts, and then iterating on it.
Interestingly enough, these images don't really match the canonical Q drops! They tend to leave a bunch of stuff out, either because early anons didn't know about them or because early anons thought they weren't by Q. Mostly the former.
These, for instance -- the second iteration of that chart -- start on 10/31/17, whereas NOW we would look at an aggregator site and go: "Oh, there were canonical drops on 10/28/17 and 10/29." (There were also lost drops on the 29th and 30th, but of course those aren't canonical.)
There are 15(!) responses to this 11/2/17 post asking: if the storm happens, "what's stopping lefties from saying he fabricated evidence and basically performed a military coup on Congress to install himself as dictator?"