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Let's get a few things clear about this declassified ODNI assessment (ODNI: Office of the Director of National Intelligence) :
washingtonpost.com/national-secur…
First as is written on page 2:
"This assessment is based on information through August 2021."

In other words it does NOT include any information that has come up since the summary assessment of 26th Aug 21.
dni.gov/index.php/news…
In particular it does not include the DEFUSE revelations (especially about the FCS).

Or the latest revelations that show that GoF on BatCoVs was indeed happening within the WIV.

It is based on data frozen in time - nothing new since the summary report: dni.gov/index.php/news…
In a way it is rather misleading to publish such a declassified assessment without including the latest information available.

What I would instead expect is an updated assessment.
There is at least one factual error, which is a bit surprising:

RaTG13 is not RaTG16 - in other words it was collected in 2013 not 2016.
(h/t @TheEngineer2)
There is also a rather surprising logical error - which has no place in an intel report (@dasher8090).

The reports uses naive probabilities instead of properly conditioned ones:

- 99% or so of hunters/farmers/merchants infections will NOT result in a first breakout in Wuhan
Wuhan is just one of 100+ cities in China with more than 1mln inhabitants, wet markets and transport links.

- but close to 100% of Wuhan laboratory workers infections during a field sampling trip WILL result in a first breakout in Wuhan.
Hence if you observe a first breakout in Wuhan, the relative probability of it being the result of a field sampling infection is orders of magnitude more than if you observed a first breakout in an average village or city from which nobody goes sampling BatCoVs for a lab.
The error is repeated in the next paragraph, which again ignores that the first breakout was very clearly in Wuhan.

Additionally the logic there ignores the equivalent chance of asymptomatic field sampler or lab worker.

It's rather sloppy intel work, or a badly worded doc.
All the more surprising that the asymptomatic researcher point is correctly made later in the report:
Last, one of the statements may unfortunately lead to people mixing up a distance argument with the location argument.

The point below is only about complicating the search for a zoonotic spillover. It does not affect at all the validity of the Wuhan location argument.
The Wuhan location argument is not a distance argument. It is a location of first breakout argument - basically an exclusivity argument.

One intel agency got it right and correctly concluded that a research-related accident was more probable than a zoonosis:
Not only that but they also noted the key point that:
"WIV researchers who conducted sampling activity throughout China provided a node for the virus to enter the city."
This is exactly what I highlighted many times before.

A bit of logic and analysis work is all you need - but I am surprised to see that many of the intel agencies did not pick it up.

researchgate.net/publication/35…
Overall my impression is that some intel agencies did a bit of a superficial work not thinking this through in probabilistic ways.

Also the form of the document makes it a bit disjointed - it's a summary of positions, not an intel briefing that would formulate a cohesive view.

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Good luck to the Daszak in suing EHA (through its board of directors) for a total of $4mln.

He is a debarred fraud, likely linked to one of the most destructive events of the last 100 years, who racked millions at EHA, and enjoyed the high life in its colonial revival villa in upstate NY, not far from his favourite ski fields.
But, wait, they were 'incredibly supportive of Peter'. They knew that 'Peter [was] a great scientist, a deeply honest man', etc.

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2️⃣ The complete ODNI BSEG composition as of Sep 2020—never published before.Image
2/24 Context:

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🔒 Meetings are classified and managed by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. @thackerpd Image
3/24 BSEG stands for Biological Sciences Experts Group.

3️⃣ Additional context on early briefings, biosafety concerns, and international collaborations.

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Findings from EHA documents made public by Congress in December 2024.

1️⃣ How the folder was made public:
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2️⃣ The folder content: Image
3️⃣ Our quick summary: Image
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@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep Your link does not work unfortunately. Can you give one that works?
Quite a few foundations there (Stiftungen).
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep - Schweizerische Eidgenossenschat, Bundesamt für Kultur (BAK) (some funding if 10% is shot in Switzerland)
- Zürcher Filmstiftung
- Stiftung Volkart
- UBS Kulturstiftung
- Stiftung Corymbo
- Ernst Göhner Stiftung
@CD57227 @JanKlimkowski @Florin_Uncovers @DavRoeck @R_H_Ebright @emilyakopp @zeynep Zürcher Filmstiftung
CHF 60,000 to develop the project, on 16Mar 2021:
filmstiftung.ch/die-forderung/…Image
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You can't make that up..

"Blame" – when the only critical words about Shi Zhengli and Peter Daszak come from a Chinese journalist.💥

Jane Qiu visibly feels uncomfortable. It seems to her as if she is participating in propaganda, she says' Image
In contrast, Variety has a surrealist article:

"Oscar-nominated Swiss director Christian Frei began to experience a feeling that “those who warned us would eventually be the ones who are blamed.

This sentiment, which he calls an “epiphany,” is at the heart of “Blame”. Image
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Shi Zhengli and Linfa Wang, as well as Quammen, were looped in Sep 2020. Image
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@CD57227 @DavRoeck @Florin_Uncovers More details. Daszak had a work/vacation at end Oct 2022 during which he went top What Khao Ching Pan, but that was before the filming. Image
The filming occurred during the first two weeks of December.

Note that Daszak went vi Zurich and shared the flight to Bangkok with Markolin.

He often does that for key people: Farrar from Geneva to London in Feb 2020, Koopmans from Wuhan to Amsterdam after the 2021 WHO mission, etc.
@ebright @JanKlimkowski @TantaliteImage
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