Thread by @frankendodo

Welcome to Day 2 of the #lookingglass2021! Starting off with a panel on Logic & Language!

And if you were wondering what's going on behind your Looking-Glasses (computer screens) - this is what running an online conference looks like on & behind the screen!

Quick reminder: If you missed the conference talks yesterday, while the recordings are still rendering, you can read a very quick summary from our live tweets - with pictures! #lookingglass2021

https://twitter.com/frankendodo/status/1456522727809064963

How do words relate to worlds? How do words get a meaning? Bas Savenije exploring Lewis Carroll's views on Logic & Language and Experimental Science in their historical & Victorian contexts.
Always love a bit of Bacon in the morning (best with a side of Leibniz) #lookingglass2021

Metaphors, Müller and other things beginning with M - how developments in linguistics shaped Carroll's & Humpty Dumpty's views on language (Carroll mocks 'autonomous language' & essentialism) - and a fantastic illustration of Lewis Carroll as the Dodo #lookingglass2021

Savenije: Being a master means to be the master of meaning-the one who defines, has power (Humpty does not get a good reputation in this talk)

Gerlach: Carroll includes Logic playfully to teach Logic as a system of thought (using sweet things &animals to capture their attention)

Richards: Using dialogue, b/w Alice &Humpty Dumpty, Carroll enacts himself interrogating the way logic was being taught in the 19th Ct, before he embarks on his lifelong mission to find better ways of doing so
Savenije: This was integral to Carroll's faith #lookingglass2021

Linguists, Logicians, and Scientists in our audience kicking off a stimulating discussion already - so much for thinking about six impossible things before breakfast! Game of Logic itself makes an appearance, positioned on the shelf behind @ThereGoesBill! #lookingglass2021

Mark Richards (@ThereGoesBill ) has made a simulator of Carroll's Game of Logic, which you can play here: lewiscarrollresources.net/gameoflogic/

SO incredibly excited to be part of this upcoming roundtable on Science, the Imagination& Through the Looking-Glass, we are being kicked off by the incredible Prof Alice Gorman @drspacejunk, with @mcleish_t, @irmorus1, Amirouche Moktefi, chaired by @melaniekeene #lookingglass2021

Launching the discussion into orbit, @drspacejunk is talking about the mind-bending reality of Optics in Space & Space Mirrors #lookingglass2021

Reflecting on the double-life of optical instruments as "scientific instruments" & "edfiying" entertainments, which explains the double-nature of Carroll's Alice books, and the presence of optical devices in them #lookingglass2021

Amirouche Moktefi, Carroll's view on a Modern Logic was that it must be "coherent with the actual facts of life" -- which set high standards for his use of Logic in his fiction, and the claims on truth and morality within them& that he so wanted to popularise it #lookingglass2021

Next up Prof Tom McLeish @mcleish_t on liminality, the freedom of mathematical worlds, and higher dimensions - knots, Klein bottles and other mind-bending things #lookingglass2021

These are present in Carroll's own work, for instance here, as the "Purse of Fortunatus" in Sylvie & Bruno: "Whatever is inside that Purse, is outside it; and whatever is outside it, is inside it. So you have all the wealth of the world in that leetle Purse" #lookingglass2021

Ian Gomersall, Priest&trained scientist kicking off the panel on Lewis Carroll& his Theology&how that ties in seamlessly into his thoughts on science, logic& imagination explore in this mornings panel& roundtable. Carroll as challenging views in all these fields #lookingglass2021

More than delighted to now hear from (my former student) Joshua Rawleigh "Through the Looking-Glass Darkly: The Mirror Theology of Alice’s Adventures" - already linking into our discussion of George MacDonald in the previous panel @mcleish_t #lookingglass

And now we have Rev Karen Gardiner re-exploring Through the Looking-Glass through the mirror as metaphor for progressive spiritual development towards revelation in broad church theology (and its embracing of Darwin's evolution) #lookingglass2021

The importance of terminology, taxonomy and naming in theology&natural history: Naming linked to a more substantial existence-the Gnat speaks in a "still small voice" - i.e. smaller type face - before it is named - parallel to naming and re-naming in the Bible #lookingglass2021

Gardiner: The bread and butterfly as "an evolutionary disaster" - poor thing! - is its name at fault for its faith? Language as self-fulfilling metaphor/prophecy #lookingglass2021

And we're on to our second keynote lecture by Charlie Lovett: Reflections in a Looking-Glass: Christian Self-reflection in the Life of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson
Join here: york-ac-uk.zoom.us/j/98578973686

I am incredibly honoured to have Charlie at this conference: I tried to take some books that Charlie has written, that are essential to Carroll scholarship and to this conference, off my bookcase, and stopped when it was nearly empty.

Lovett: Carroll would have had plenty of exposure of examining himself and other as a glass, as a means of self-reflection, optimisation, and in photography: fixing shortcomings - the same process as of Christian self-reflection & self-examination #lookingglass2021

Lovett: The diary passages praying for forgiveness integral part of Anglican catechism, normal to a Christian as Dodgson, not "suspicious" as has been speculated leaving aside his religion& what practices that would have entailed, so integral to who Carroll was #lookingglass2021

Great visual material, too, this is the chapel in which Carroll would have prayed as a young man, when still at school #lookingglass2021

Answering a question asked earlier by @mcleish_t , if Carroll read Coleridge and used him as an 'aid to reflection', Lovett is now distinguishing the principles of "reflection", "understanding", "forethought" and "truth" #lookingglass2021

Lovett now walking us through the ordination process that Carroll would have undergone, under the guidance of Bishop Samuel Wilberforce - and his instructions given for the process of Christian self-reflection #lookingglass2021

"Dogdson's Library" (two views of it here) remains relevant providing insights into Carroll's life it is also crucial when he acquired the books, and from whom, such as the books inherited from his father - including books of prayer, one means of self reflection #lookingglass2021

Lovett, citing @ThereGoesBill, poses the provocative question: Wonderland: a book of about Alice Liddell, and Looking-Glass: a book about Charles Lutwidge Dodgson?
Carrollians still divided which one they "prefer" - are you #teamAAIW or #teamTTLG? #lookingglass2021

Lovett in Q&A now:
- Religion not sexy? Hence why it has been ignored in Carroll's life for so long?
- Integral texts to Carroll's understanding of religion include "An Easter Greeting to a Child that Loves Alice" #lookingglass2021
alice-in-wonderland.net/resources/chap…

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Aaaand we're back after lunch with @justinehouyaux with French translations of Looking-Glass, Louis Aragon & the Surrealists #lookingglass2021

Interesting political use of specifically Looking-Glass, not Wonderland, by French surrealists (with QR code to download the text - nicely done @justinehouyaux!) #lookingglass2021

Differences between literal and literary attempts at translation, illustrating some of the challenges of translating Through the Looking-Glass #lookingglass2021

"Which dreamed it?" - Breton / Carroll edition #lookingglass2021

Different translations fit different purposes: translation as commodity - how does this influence the way we read the book?
Some exceptional data visualisation on representations of surrealists among French translations #lookingglass2021

Houyaux concludes: French translations are Frankenalices.

Now on to Derrick McClure: "Throwe the Keekin-Gless an Fit Ailice Funn There" kicking us off with a FANTASTIC Jabberwocky recitation - in North-East-Scots (Doric)!

What a treat! #lookingglass2021

Mirrors vs lenses as tools for transformation, comparing the photographic & literary work of Carroll to the work of Nicky Lee - why did Carroll use a mirror, not a lens? #lookingglass2021

And now we're already on to our last panel! "“It’s all in some language I don’t know”: Jabberwocky in/as Poetry, Translation, and Transmedia Imagetext" with Björn Sundmark, Kit Kelen, Anna Kérchy and Michael Everson #lookingglass2021

How does one structure an academic study, a new book about translations? By what criteria? Sundmark on translation and transmediation #lookingglass2021

The mirror writing of Jabberwocky in different scripts #lookingglass2021

And we're on to Anna Kérchy on "ludological narratives"; starting off with Alice's own interaction, which poses question: is Jabberwocky a text or a picture? Kérchy analyses TTLG as a case of transmedia storytelling #lookingglass2021

Jan Švankmajer's transmedial retelling of the Jabberwocky & Angst Jabberwocky -- is this for children? How does the therapeutic effect of adapting Alice weigh up against that? #lookingglass2021

Jabberwocky as projecting a faux-ur-text (which is quite the word) is being discussed by Kit Kelen #lookingglass2021

Now Michael Everson on translating Jabberwocky into Blisssymbols - a language with no phonology #lookingglass2021

This is how Blissymbols work: You can string them together to make words - a school is a knowledge-giving-building, for instance #lookingglass2021

This is how you construct the word "Jabberwocky" and the first part of the poem #lookingglass2021

Here's how to write "snicker-snack" in blissymbols - and make it "rhyme"! #lookingglass2021

And this is our final roundtable - "Quo Vadis Alice? Beyond the Looking-Glass"! With @Dr_Dimitra_Fimi, Steve Folan, chair of @LewisCarrollSoc, Charlie Lovett (former president of @AliceAmerica ) - chaired by the fantastic Brian Sibley (sadly w/o @arrroberts!) #lookingglass2021

Dimitra Fimi (@Dr_Dimitra_Fimi) now speaking about The Tiny Alice project (tinyalice.org) used for explaining scientific concepts to children - and Alice, metaphor & imagination - there will be more scientific Alices, she predicts (as they have been!) #lookingglass2021

"Writing a novel is only the first part of a creation, a process to be completed by the readers" - Charlie Lovett in our concluding panel @AliceAmerica

Lovett: Alice: the CocaCola of the literary world?
Discussing Alice's literary legacy #lookingglass2021

Folan: What would Lewis Carroll do if he were born today? He would not be working for Oxford, nor as a tutor, but he'd work for Google or a start up combining his skills in language mathematics and his imagination

Fimi: Alice as Myth (careful to use the term, she adds), as a text that can be metaphorically read - can thus be reimagined again and again

And there we are! The roundtable is over the conference is done! Thank you so much to this fantastic roundtable...

https://twitter.com/Dr_Dimitra_Fimi/status/1456692829720391689

THANK YOU EVERYONE!
#lookingglass2021 is done!

I promised I would not do another #lookingglass2021 tweet, but I was also told to go get a drink, so I guess this is my compromise

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